They have had military relations recently (eg being the first potential customer for Merkavas currently, and being part of a Military Pact w/ Greece too), but its so recent (5 years, 10 at best) and within that timespan, there’s been a lot of controversies regarding Cyprus and Israel.
Which imo would be weak reasoning, because it has close relations with a subtree rather than the main tree.
they are
Yes but that still doesn’t change they’re indigenous, anyway I get what you mean but its a weak reasoning either way.
im not disagreeing with the Hunter going to Israel, but you cant just use the Bionix as an example of an indigenous AFV when the armored, fighting and vehicle parts are all not indigenous
It is still home based design, custom made parts for our needs and use. It is very much indigenous despite manufactured/parts from the US. We didn’t just buy a Bradley and modify it to our needs nor did we get all off the shelf parts outside of the power pack and gun at best.
dont forget German MEXAS armor
Ye ye the point being that this whole convo began because Gaijin wants to split SG apart, and I’m pretty much against that idea regardless.
As long as this elephant in the room gets addressed, I’ll be cool. My bottom line is everything in one tree as a subtree. If that doesn’t get fulfilled then I give no care about this game and will drop it.
which makes sense considering how varied their stuff is.
It’s not really that much more varied than Malaysia, Thailand or Indonesia (if anything Indonesia is a bigger crime here with the amount of things they are buying from literally EVERYONE recently.)
Just a reminder what we do have here:
i dont support that either
What makes this worse, is that Gaijin has ended up making operator nation a big part of War Thunder and have only help this idea by focusing on sub-trees.
And this can be seen everywhere else, with the War Thunder Forums broken down by nation for suggestions and more.
Plus on places like Reddit and Steam, when looking for a specific nation, you see people asking for it either by itself or with a group of “related nations”.
Yeah well unfortunately that’s a reality now, so Japan can get Rafales, F-16s, Su-27, Su-30 and the rumoured purchases of J-10C (Chinese mains will not allow this lol) and Su-35 alongside confirmed orders of KF-21.
Oh but Singapore to Israel is too varied for Gaijin apparently…
which isnt a good thing
not only that but other nations have significantly more claim to some Singaporean vehicles than Israel, through making and in at least one case operating them
Do realise that mixed matchmaker is a thing right
i guess the Type 90 isn’t indigenous because it uses a L/44.
hmmmmmmmmm Vickers
Once again, good thing or not, it is a reality that Gaijin themselves have thrust it upon. So it’s not unreasonable for me to compare Singapore to Indonesia/Malaysia/Thailand about that sort of what people would call “preferential treatment” (despite not really being it). It is a much more reasonable request than Cyprus to Israel given how deep of a tie Singapore has with Israel since 1965.
The ground tree is even worse, literally has like 30 nations.
what about other tech trees getting their uniqueness destroyed at top tier? i dont think the chinese should have their one indigenous 4.5 gen be made available in a tree that also has most of the games top tier
thats just the armament vs. the armor, armament, and propulsion