Time will see. We are currently experiencing KHK38s launched from base and the snail is buffing them. So I don’t see the no to a dual mode 179.
from less than 1000m alt thats not exactly a surprise, theyre very heavy
And sitting at 3000m really isn’t healthy for the GR4. Especially with F-111F firing off AGM-65Ds without issue at 11.7
did I miss an patch for the 65s or are the still under preforming in flight?
They are, but still far easier to use than the PGM and far more likely to actually hit the target.
If GR4 is at 12.3 because 3-4x PGMs then why is the F111F at 11.7 with 6x AGM-65D?
Even with the most generous launch conditions. Are you really gunna fire a PGM past 15km? Assuming it doesn’t get shot down? Even underperforming AGM-65 can easily beat that
And what does this have to do with you saying that the only thing that is exceptional about the EFT is it’s gunfighting performance?
Even though it also arguably beats the F-15E in BVR.
These should be fixed, but even with those buffs you would likely undersell it still.
because the f111f only gets aim9l for defense, gets less CM, and agm65D arent agm65G which more comparable to pgm500, oh and the gr4 has a really good targeting pod (and the brimstones too which are… okay)
but the most important reason is that nobody uses them enough in GRB for their separate GRB BRs to change to be different to their ARB BRs
Because it is. It’s the only thing it’s actually exceptional at. The rest it’s above average at best.
But again, are you against the Typhoon getting a single but fixed? Since when did performance dictate whether or not bug reports should get fixed or not? And if that is the policy why is the Rafale meant to be getting more buffs
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Hmm i wonder when gaijin finally get around to adding the other AH-64Es if they will be treated like the gripens and EFTs where they all just share the same loadout.
Right now the US one would be coming with 16-16km fnf ATGMs while the other nations that could get the AH-64E would only have 16-8km SAL ATGMs the British one could get brimstone 1s and or 2s (8km and 16-20km) they would still only be SAL so unless gaijin adds MMV which they wont i assume they will just share the loadouts to ease balancing
Morvan still at it?
I swear this was the same conversation topic when I checked in on my break 7:30 hours ago
Im about to go to bed, I wonder if it will still be going in the afternoon when I wake up…
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Aim-9M is kinda irrelevant with F16A and Gripen A both at 12.0
PGMs rarely hit the target anyway, and AGM-65Ds seems to fine these days for damage.
Tpod can be found also on the 11.3 Tornado IDS MLU and the Gripen A has a perfectly good tpod at 12.0 as well. Tpod is hardly worth mentioning given the IDS(1995) is the same BR as something with litening iii and i don’t think it even has thermals. Clearly it’s not something factored in to the BRs
Sal brismtone 1s from a Tonka have 10km range and are sal. No point wasting your SP on them. Might have been use to overwhelm a Pantsir a year ago. But these days? Not gunna do much against an IRIS-T SLM
UK bought JAGM
can’t wait to send one of these flying
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they bought JAGM not JAGM-MR JAGM is only SAL and MMV not to mention only 8km as well
From what i have read they are not exactly FnF missiles. the IIR seeker is used for accuracy. They should be requiring a laser lock initially until in range of the IIR seeker.
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fixed wing plane and heli are totally different situation, should be discussed separately
also, KH-38 still under the limit of its seeker in normal situation, the base launch situation is using it as GPS rocket, its advantage is its speed, nothing else, maybe add GPS guidance, but this advantage not so big as its speed
irrelevant for the difference between the gr4 and gripen A, not for the differences between the f111f and GR4
have you considered changing how you use PGMs? i find them quite reliable (if slow), and sure agm65Ds do fine damage, but the pgms are literally a bomb, not a heat warhead
IDS MLU with the litening 3 is 11.3 because it has no real fnf weapons so kinda a nothing comparison
eh litening 2 is not as good as it used to be and is nothing compared to litening 3, plus the gripen still cant fire past like 8km
ids 1995 has CLDP, not litening 3, the MLU ret8 has litening 3 and has bad ordnance (even brimstones would be better
i know, thats why i said theyre “… okay”
if they model that then there is no reason LOBL MMV couldnt be added it would work the exact same way needing to be guided by laser until about 3-4km
“Real shocker, helis getting annihilated by proper SAMs and SPAAs?
Maybe that’s how it should be. But maybe I’m just delusional for thinking that anti air should counter CAS.”
I just gave an example that CAS lacks the main levers that exist in reality to combat air defense. Therefore, this is not a full-fledged confrontation if compared to reality.
That’s it. That we have absolutely unequal chances CAS vs SPAA. It’s not realistic.
Well, at least they gave us AGM-179 MR and LMUR, for which we thank them. But still, against the new SAMs, helicopters are half-dead.
I’m not against most of the buffs for it. I’m just against you underselling it.
It’s a far better plane at BVR than the F-15E, but you will continue to go “but but…” to find anything to fit your agenda that the EFT isn’t incredible.
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