what would the arnament of an a4m be
5 nations got IRCCM at the same time, the 6th got it the next update. But yeah 2 of them had them on worse platforms at a lower BR.
F-15C fair, but you know the F-15E was only in game for less than a month before the EFT and Rafale got added and took over the stomping.
Because no nation besides the EFT nations and France currently have a plane equal to the EFT and Rafale to begin with.
I know the British suffer people are trying their best to write the EFT off as just some average plane while praising the F-15E and Su-30SM to high heaven. However the F-15E is hardly a problem for any EFT pilot with 2 braincells. The Su-30SM also isn’t on par, but it’s just annoying because 12 ARH missiles.
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2 months technically. Rafale got AESA, which kinda defeats your point. Typhoon only got a half usable radar in July this year. So 8 months after the F-15E was added.
AESA would be of most use in BVR and of minimal value in WVR .
F-15E/I already beat the Typhoon in BVR due to equal launch performance but can carry 2x more AMRAAM
Su-30SM already has PESA and can carry 12x R-77-1s that are better than Aim-120C5s
France already has an AESA equipped equivalent that outperforms the Typhoon in most battles. Any advantage the EFT has is nullfied by the fact defeating an AMRAAM is very easy.
So that is 4 nations that already match the performance of the EFT in a theatre where AESA radar would be most valuable.
Gripen NG would be on par if not stronger than the EFT as well with double the CM count, an AESA radar that could also gimbal and 2+7 fit.
That just leaves China and Japan.
So… Again. Why should Britain and Especially Italy and Germany be denied AESA radar? It just sounds like kneecapping the EFT just because its the EFT. Its already been handed loads of nerfs, it shouldnt be denied the ability to keep pace with everyone else
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God I pray if it does come they don’t just make it a C&P of the Ayit (including the non-existent HUD that’s been broken for ages now)
I have played the EFT and the F-15E is a plane that I hardly consider a threat. If I die to them it’s almost always because I made a mistake and not because they are flying a plane that is comparable to mine.
Which is why imo EFT > F-15E when it comes to BVR.
The F-15E was added on the 19th of November while the EFT and Rafale were added on the 16th of December. I don’t know in what world that would technically be 2 months?
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So again.
F-15E getting AESA. No issue
Gripen NG getting AESA, no Issue
Rafale having AESA, no issue
Su-30SM having PESA, no issue
etc etc etc
But EFT is totally unacceptable?
Again, Why?
The Typhoon needs a massively weaker radar than everyone else for balance? Despite already being weaker than the Rafale with AESA. Heck, its spent the better part of the last 8 months without a radar.
If everyone has AESA in BVR except the Typhoon, then the Typhoon will be massively weaker than everyone else in BVR. CAPTOR-M is already in need of massive buffs just to keep pace.
In WVR the Rafale is already massively more powerful than the EFT ever would be with an AESA so long as we dont have HOBS missiles, and even then. AESA wont change that fact.
Looking at the K/Ds Form July, German and Italian Typhoons have the lowest K/Ds of all the 14.3s already. Britain’s is a little higher, but there is no meaningful reason for this. Su-30SM beats out the German and Italian Typhoons and Rafale leaves them all in the dust.
Heck, the Mirage 2Ks have a lot higher K/D than all the EFTs and the Finish F-18C MLU2 also beats out the German and italian Typhoon
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Never said I wanted the F-15E to get AESA anytime soon. I know you always try to push the Britain suffers agenda, but there are also other airframes that deserve to shine.
Super Hornet (no matter how much I dislike the Hornets) and J-10C, J-11/15/16 are some examples.
The Typhoon with AESA can come together with the likes of the F-15EX, Gripen E, Su-35 and late J-15/16 (or something along those lines) right before 5th gen aircraft get added.
So what if the Gripen NG has a single update to shine, it’s not like Sweden air has had an amazing 1.5 years so far. Meanwhile the British tree that you are pushing the suffer agenda has had the Typhoon being by far the second best aircraft for 9 months now.
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Clearly the solution is to give Russia a MiG-29 with AESA.
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Mig-35 with AESA
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Ah fair.
(I am mostly joking of course but honestly i wouldn’t mind the MiG-35 even if it would be kinda mid)
Completely ignores the fact this also affects Germany and Italy, if not more so as they have 0 alternatives and would be the only nations without a single AESA equipped aircraft
So what you are saying is that in the same update they add an F-15 with AESA radar, the EFT can also get AESA? Just like everyone said the EFT can come with the F-15C MSIP II? and then the F-15E… and then the F-18E iirc.
Again… This is just Hypocrisy of the highest order. You are fine with the Gripen E with AESA purely on the grounds that its not British? Despite the fact this AGAIN affects Germany and Italy way more than it affects Britain.
So form what I understand, your ONLY argument against the EFT getting AESA is because I personally want AESA on the EFT? and that EFT with AESA is perfectly fine otherwise?
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Gripen e and aesa typhoon would essentially be equivalents I don’t see why they can’t come together. Gripen e might even be better for war thunder because it gets more missiles and more cms while having a worse fm
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Yeah, the Gripen E even gets the same radar gimball thing. Just feels like kneecapping the EFT because its percieved to be ungodly OP despite actually being pretty average in need of buffs
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the gripen has less gimbal than th EF, afaik tho
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Rafale and the Eurofighter are the best aircraft by far
The F15E has almost no advantages to them in comparison
If that is not what you think then you are coping
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Mah, They are arguing over them funny European flying triangles again!
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Wow, jsut wow.
Then AGAIN justify why the EFT must be artificially nerfed?
YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT is thast the EFT is somehow stupidly OP and steamrolling every match. And yet the SU-30SM, F-18C MLU2, Rafale and Mirage 2K5F/5Ei. All performed better than the EFT. Heck the Swedish Gripen C had a better K/D than the EFT in July and June
So again. Give me 1 reason other than “Morvran is just being biassed hu duh” arguement that you are currently using to deny buffs to both Germany and Italy
So far it just sounds like a typical US main denying things to anyone that has something better than the F-15 and you cant just steam roll every lobby like you would like
EFT has one of the buggiest radar still after 8 months of practically not having a radar. If the DEVS are giving everyone AESA, then why should the EFT be denied AESA.
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