Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

the gripen has less gimbal than th EF, afaik tho

Rafale and the Eurofighter are the best aircraft by far

The F15E has almost no advantages to them in comparison

If that is not what you think then you are coping

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Mah, They are arguing over them funny European flying triangles again!

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Wow, jsut wow.

Then AGAIN justify why the EFT must be artificially nerfed?

YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT is thast the EFT is somehow stupidly OP and steamrolling every match. And yet the SU-30SM, F-18C MLU2, Rafale and Mirage 2K5F/5Ei. All performed better than the EFT. Heck the Swedish Gripen C had a better K/D than the EFT in July and June

So again. Give me 1 reason other than “Morvran is just being biassed hu duh” arguement that you are currently using to deny buffs to both Germany and Italy

So far it just sounds like a typical US main denying things to anyone that has something better than the F-15 and you cant just steam roll every lobby like you would like

EFT has one of the buggiest radar still after 8 months of practically not having a radar. If the DEVS are giving everyone AESA, then why should the EFT be denied AESA.

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So germany and italy must suffer because I want Britain to stop being kneecapped for no good reason. Got it

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F/A-18C MLU better then the EFT

No

Please you have become a terrible blight on British players making us look terrible

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Mummy and daddy are fighting again

Yes, for the most part.
Idk if they swapped it over already or not, but it was announced in 2020/2021 that our CF-18s were gonna be using AESA as part of our Hornet Extension Program / HEP.


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based upon statshark, apparently that is the case:

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If Denying Italy and Germany AESA is based solely upon aircraft performance, then so should Sweden using that same logic.

Heck even Swedish Gripen C performed better:

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China should especially be denied AESA using that argument

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So "I think this aircraft performs better (even though it doesnt based upon SS) and therefore it should be artificially held back for the sake of “balance” " is just a dumb argument to me.

Quite frankly, the moment the Rafale got AESA instead of its terrible PESA radar. AESA should have been on the table for the EFT.

Its getting boring having to play around all the artificial nerfs the EFT has to deal with already, like SAL brimstones 1s, broken cockpits and the buggy nature of teh CAPTOR-M All year. Let alone also BOL and the terrible state of Aim-9M

and again, no one has actually justified why Rafale, Gripen, F-15, Su-30, etc etc with AESA is fine, but EFT is somehow so unacceptable other than “it buffs Britain, therefore its bad”

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Smh squabbling over flying SAMs when they could be coping about CVRTs smh my head /j

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The Gripen and F-15 both have M-scan right now, the Su-30’s cant even get AESA afaik.

It shouldn’t even be a strike aircraft/mini B-1 and budget fighter fighting F3R Rafales and T2/3 Typhoons, it should be Gripen NG and some advanced eagle

Reject modern fighter craft, return to ww2 planes.

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It is fair to assume that the F-15 will probably get AESA sooner rather than later and the Gripen NG is expected anyday now with something awefully similar in performance to the CAPTOR-E.

It has PESA, which still massively outperforms any and all M-Scan radars in gam.

So again… If Rafale and Gripen NG with AESA is fine. Why is the EFT totally unacceptable. No one as given me an answer for this yet

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Are you using win rates

Interesting you didn’t show the FGR4 win rate which is the highest of the Typhoons

I talking the actual performance of the aircraft not the performance of the player and the EFT and Rafale are much better then the rest

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Ya, it’s happened already but it’s the current upgrade so it makes no sense to come to the game now.

As it would been limited to weapons of a earlier upgrade, so at that point just make the earlier upgrade with the radar used then.

K/D

it does, but this goes beyond just Britian and if anything affects Germany and Italy more because neither nation has an AESA laternative, Britain has several.

Also there is no reason why the British EFT performs better than the German and especially the Italian Typhoon other than British players have been use to Tornado F3 for years and know what they are doing.

And again. Even in that respect. Would the Typhoon with CAPTOR-M really outperform a Gripen NG with AESA? Does it even outperform the Rafale already in game with AESA?

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the 3 US F-15’s havent even gotten BOL with extensive paper and photo evidence. I’ll look forward to it but i have my doubts about when itll happen

Yes but that’s because the FM is abysmal, if it was an Su-27sm with a BARS radar and the 12 R-77 loadout then yeah, it would be an issue for sure.

The Su-30 is unironically the most balanced jet out of all the 14.3’s, it’s not a turbo overperforming ufo, but at the same time it has a much better loadout than something like an Eurofighter.

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In a dogfight sure, but if we go to a short to medium range BVR fight. The Su-30SM has some major advnatages. Had an Su-30 the other day focus fire me down in ARB. Every time I defeated a missile and tried to turn hot to engage it, I had to defend against another, on the 4th missile I made a mistake and it killed me. Let alone all the times an Su-30 just intercepted my missile and then fired 4 more back at me.

Or even the times hwere I couldnt even find the Su-30 locking me because CAPTOR-M couldnt find the target in an ASB match.

Sure the EFT has a good gunfighting performance… But I feel liek this fact gets used to outshadow every other fact about the EFT and is somehow justification for nerfs and restrictions (especially as when you try to use the same argument for something like the Tonrado F3 to get buffs, people then seem to pretend dogfight performance doesnt matter and its now the radar, RWR, and CM performance that only matters)

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