UK bought JAGM
can’t wait to send one of these flying
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they bought JAGM not JAGM-MR JAGM is only SAL and MMV not to mention only 8km as well
From what i have read they are not exactly FnF missiles. the IIR seeker is used for accuracy. They should be requiring a laser lock initially until in range of the IIR seeker.
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fixed wing plane and heli are totally different situation, should be discussed separately
also, KH-38 still under the limit of its seeker in normal situation, the base launch situation is using it as GPS rocket, its advantage is its speed, nothing else, maybe add GPS guidance, but this advantage not so big as its speed
irrelevant for the difference between the gr4 and gripen A, not for the differences between the f111f and GR4
have you considered changing how you use PGMs? i find them quite reliable (if slow), and sure agm65Ds do fine damage, but the pgms are literally a bomb, not a heat warhead
IDS MLU with the litening 3 is 11.3 because it has no real fnf weapons so kinda a nothing comparison
eh litening 2 is not as good as it used to be and is nothing compared to litening 3, plus the gripen still cant fire past like 8km
ids 1995 has CLDP, not litening 3, the MLU ret8 has litening 3 and has bad ordnance (even brimstones would be better
i know, thats why i said theyre “… okay”
if they model that then there is no reason LOBL MMV couldnt be added it would work the exact same way needing to be guided by laser until about 3-4km
“Real shocker, helis getting annihilated by proper SAMs and SPAAs?
Maybe that’s how it should be. But maybe I’m just delusional for thinking that anti air should counter CAS.”
I just gave an example that CAS lacks the main levers that exist in reality to combat air defense. Therefore, this is not a full-fledged confrontation if compared to reality.
That’s it. That we have absolutely unequal chances CAS vs SPAA. It’s not realistic.
Well, at least they gave us AGM-179 MR and LMUR, for which we thank them. But still, against the new SAMs, helicopters are half-dead.
I’m not against most of the buffs for it. I’m just against you underselling it.
It’s a far better plane at BVR than the F-15E, but you will continue to go “but but…” to find anything to fit your agenda that the EFT isn’t incredible.
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they both preform the CAS role. they are the same situation and should be discussed together.
You literally just have to hover or multipath
IRL your only saving grace would be hiding behind terrain, so it’s somewhat an improvment
10km range, fired from reasonably high. Don’t track half the time and self destruct the other half
Still the same BR as the IDS(1995) with no GPS weapons at all and not even litening ii. My point,.tpod performance doesn’t matter in terms of BR placement. Otherwise I want GR7 a lower BR with only TIALD
And the GR4 does?
Again, kinda my point…same BR. Tpod obviously doesn’t matter.
Exactly. Again… My point that I’ve been making… SAL Brismtone 2s to instead of SAL Brimstone 1s. Unreasonable buff?
You can pop smoke on an IR missile and it lose track you can not with an MMW in the current state of the game which was the reason Gaijin stated they wouldn’t add MMW.
And you dismiss everything I say because “single nation mains dont get an opinion”
Typhoon barely had a working radar till July. In fact I knew multiple people who ran IRST only with just 9Ms because they couldn’t be bothered touching the radar. Still had people trying to argue the EFT was OP and should be nerfed compared to the F15E. Many people argued C5s shouldnt have been given to the EFT.
It’s frustrating that every single time you mention a bug fix for the EFT people will always say “hu duh…it’s OP doesn’t need buffs”
It’s radar is still a buggy mess. Most of it’s CMs barely work and it’s cockpit is just disgusting to even look at at the moment.
Combine with the fact it has the weakest A2G loadout that is a.complete work of fiction and it’s time for the Typhoon to get buffs.
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targeting pod very much does matter if you have weapons that can actually be fired from more than 5km away or are fnf, better targeting pod makes it much easier to find targets and fire missiles of faster
never said it was
The AGM-179 JAGM was specifically designed as a “network-centric” missile. It does not necessarily need to receive illumination only from the helicopter itself.
Laser channel - JAGM can go to the target using laser illumination from a UAV (for example, the MQ-1C Gray Eagle or even small reconnaissance aircraft with a laser designator), other helicopters, ground observers with a laser designator (JTAC).
IR + radar channel - if the missile managed to capture the target with its sensors before launch (or immediately after launch), then it does not need external illumination at all - it can complete the attack itself.
Practical advantage:
Apache can launch JAGM “blindly” from behind cover if the drone provides illumination.
The helicopter takes less risk, not exposing itself to MANPADS.
In a network war, the missile becomes a “common tool”, and is not tied only to the carrier.
We have drones in our game, but you understand that in our game it will never happen that a Western helicopter would hit air defenses with ATGMs with impunity.
Our game is not about reality, but about bias and balance.
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I’ve made TIALD work enough to know that it’s not always that big of a deal…sure litening iii or better yet the Flir is a lovely buff. But hardly seems fair justifying a 0.3 higher BR than something like the Gripen A for it and it alone
And that’s all I’m really asking for here. Time for Brimstone 2s
all non ESA radars have been weird since the storm warning update, not just the typhoon radar
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Perhaps, not had any trouble with Blur Vixen or Foxhunter though. But started getting massive ghosting problems again a few weeks ago on the captor-M. Decided to wait until after this major to resubmit the ghosting bug report for the fourth time
smaller scan area means the ghosting is less noticable, its an issue with the radars prediction of where the enemy will be before the target gets scanned again