Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

So they might as well add Phalanx to Iowa?

No crew bleed, more accurate, more concentrated, wider target set

Now that I think of it, @SPANISH_AVENGER would an 80’s refit Iowa class with “deactivated” missiles be better than WW2 one? They could do a 68 New Jersey if the Phalanx are a bit much

I’ll admit I haven’t played naval in a while, so something may have changed in the last year, but whenever I played any ship with actual AA and not the pathetic 7.62 MGs Gaijin insisted we had to use, I never once worried about getting bombed. The AI gunners are just too good (thank God, CAS crutchers stay losing), and the sheer volume that something like Yamato will be able to put up will be just… beautiful.
Well, for someone else, I’m not getting her.

Its good, but the AI fires where you will be, so if you keep changing direction, it keeps missing.

So you can trick it

I’m sure that works well for you, too bad it didn’t work for the people that tried to bomb me lol

But yeah they will all be hard to attack, just after the fiasko of Renown and then Warspite being denied HE-VT for balancing reasons despite 4x US BBs at the same BR with HE-VT. Vanguard fianlly getting HE-VT and not just 4" but 5.25" is gunna be awesome

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Naval AI AA gunners is so stupid OP really you just need some few cannons on board and they’ll no scope 360 headshot a poor sap from 10km away…

Even if they nerfed accuracy, volume of fire and proximity fuse would shred aircraft

Then you’d have to buff back accuracy for radar guided AA emplacements

Gaijin just cant model AI AA in a fair way.

Look at Convoy SPAAGs in ASB. Those are instant reaction, aimbots that can and will shoot you through trees and even start pre-firing you behind a hill.

They should use search radar data and model crew looking around on different convoy vehicles. If SPAAG gets LOS while crew is looking in the general direction, they begin to react with a small delay, if other vehicles see it there would be a greater delay, and if they can hear the jet (may need better sound modeling) it puts them on a more alert state which makes their reaction quicker

Of course if they pick it up on radar it is a shorter delay, and longer delay for other SPAAG since there is some time between spotting and radio command to others

i mean no matter the ship, no planes will be able to really hurt them in any capacity, unless :

  • you are a lancaster or a pe8 who climbed to the stratosphere and somehow managed to hit close to home
  • The BB player forgot to assign his gunners

I feel like the best AA ships next patch are going to be :

  • Iowa, because of the stupid amount of 40, 20s and 5 inches radar guided proxy fuze shells
  • Richelieu, for the exact same reason, but you repace the 20x127mm by 12x100mm AA guns, and lose some 40 mm
  • Vanguard, more or less for the same reason, but you replace the 20s + 100mm AA found on Richelieu or 20s + 5 inch found on Iowa with 5.25 inch VT slingers

talking of no fly zones, i think jean bart will do fine, because of this :

(All 57mm have HE with proximity fuze, and the 100mm were radar guided with time fuze shell and possibly proxy later on)

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dont forget radar guided (late war i think) and proxy fuse 5in

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80 bofors, 20 5in, 49 oerlikons

doesnt get much better

especially for the hamsters

but yeah in terms of sheer AA volume, it doesn’t get better indeed

I’m not too bothered for Iowa’s firepower (or speed, for that matter)

Armor, just like Richelieu, is the part that bothers me, especially on the small maps we are currently playing on, and considering Iowa’s were supposed to use their fire control over longer distances, if i remember correctly

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@Smin1080p_WT Are more rank 8 air premiums coming for other nations this patch?

Hopefully not.

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but I was hoping for a Greek Iced phantom…

bombs already nerfed. a 5000kg bomb drop 1-2 two ship widths away can hardly do any damage to even destroyer

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idk if that counts as nerfed or just literally not modelled at all

honestly speaking just a normal damage model change as always, but it do makes PE-8 and Lancaster useless in navy mode.