Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

Not going to happen, then.

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Yep, and Britain continuously upgraded them, In fact they are retiring โ€œT1sโ€ that arent compatible with the CAPTOR-E upgrades currently

SM-6 can do a hell of a lot more than PL-17. Itโ€™s an inherently more versatile missile since it was designed that way

Having the new ones be called FGR.4 (T3), et cetera, is a much better idea in my opinion.

But fundamentally, SM6 is a surface to air missile, while PL17 is a specialized air-to-air long-range missile. You cannot compare what you can do with what others are good at

Perhaps.

The question is what upgrades are โ€œsavedโ€ for them?

F2 with CAPTOR-M, Aim-9M and Aim-120B
FGR4 with CAPTOR-M, Aim-9M and Aim-120C5s + A2G
FGR4 (T3) With CAPTOR-E, ASRAAM, Meteor + Advanced A2G?

Just feels maybe a tad messy. Anyway, we could probably do with CAPTOR -E and some of that advanced A2G sooner rather than later. So maybe a retroactive FGR4 (Early) when there is enough of a gap to need it might be the better option and just keep upgrading the current FGR4 (like they did with the FGR2 for 3 years)

and ASRAAM could also be around the corner (within 6 months I reckon).

I am curious if AIM260 has been dismounted?

And whatโ€™s the problem with that? If anything, itโ€™s advantageous since now it can be launched at altitude and at high speeds

Im guessing you mean launched/fired

There is quite a bit of evidence pointing towards it already having happened but no official statements afaik

I personally would like there to be four Typhoons per nation, one for each Tranche, with increasing A2A performance for each and within two folders.

Folder 1 - T1 (AIM-9M and AIM-120B) and T2 (AIM-9M and AIM-120C-5)

Folder 2 - T3 (CAPTOR-E, IRIS-T/ASRAAM, and AIM-120C-8/D) and T4 (CAPTOR-E, IRIS-T/ASRAAM, and Meteor)

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You only have one power section, and slowing down after the power section is exhausted will only be faster with the addition of SM6โ€™s bullet diameter deceleration.
As a multi/dual pulse missile, PL17 can increase its speed at any time to increase its range

What I mean is whether AIM260 has been abandoned, and what been dismounted means in China is to abandon/stop research and development

Issue is, IRIS-T and ASRAAM could come a lot sooner and I think CAPTOR-E could also be needed sooner rather than later. At least it would be annoying to be the only nation without an AESA radar for 2 years because they wanted to add a load of sub-variants of the Typhoon.

Also things like Spear-3s might be needed this major update just for GPS standoff

So might need to be done retro-actively. Like adding an F2 after the FGR4 gets upgraded

No, itโ€™s still very much happening. It just hasnโ€™t properly entered service yet.

No it has not stopped development

Thank you

I didnโ€™t mean that I would like that to be done now, but rather thatโ€™s what I would have preferred happen from the start.

Oh right. Yeah, maybeโ€ฆ But Germany did need the CAS

SM-6 is meant to intercept ballistic missiles and about anything that flies, I think the sustainer on that thing will last enough to match or exceed the range of PL-17

I cannot understand how a single pulse missile can exceed a double pulse missile in terms of range