Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

Issue is, IRIS-T and ASRAAM could come a lot sooner and I think CAPTOR-E could also be needed sooner rather than later. At least it would be annoying to be the only nation without an AESA radar for 2 years because they wanted to add a load of sub-variants of the Typhoon.

Also things like Spear-3s might be needed this major update just for GPS standoff

So might need to be done retro-actively. Like adding an F2 after the FGR4 gets upgraded

No, it’s still very much happening. It just hasn’t properly entered service yet.

No it has not stopped development

Thank you

I didn’t mean that I would like that to be done now, but rather that’s what I would have preferred happen from the start.

Oh right. Yeah, maybe… But Germany did need the CAS

SM-6 is meant to intercept ballistic missiles and about anything that flies, I think the sustainer on that thing will last enough to match or exceed the range of PL-17

I cannot understand how a single pulse missile can exceed a double pulse missile in terms of range

Either way, right now the only things regarding the Typhoon I’d like done are the radar fixed so that it doesn’t randomly lose lock and the Brimstone to get LOBL FnF guidance.

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Tell that to a ballistic missile. By being big the AIM-174B can most likely match or exceed the PL-17 even with a single pulse motor

Yep, agreed on those 2 points as a start.

Striker 1 needs some TLC too (and/or replace with the Striker 2) as does quite a bit of the cockpit in general.

Be nice if PIRATE had 1/10th its IRL performance

FM needs some work. Still underperforming

and then we really need BOL at least unnerfed if not fully modeled.

And if FnF Brimstones still arent an option when fighting 40km SAMs, then SAL Brimstone 2s and GPS spear-3s would be a good alternative

Doesn’t the Spear 3 also have an IR guidance option?

Probably not.

Nothing from MBDA to confirm it or in any semi official docs. Visually the seeker looks the same as Brimstone and with the 94 ghz seeker producing “near visual resolution” images. Whether an IIR Seeker would add much is debatable.

THe best guess is that some places have misread the “mutli-mode seeker” that is listed on the data-sheet as including IIR as many US weapons like JAGM-MR call their tri-mode seeker a “multi-mode” seeker

That’s probably it.

However, except for a slightly larger diameter than PL17, the length of SM6 is much smaller than PL17, and there will be no phenomenon of single pulse being greater than double pulse
Unless SM6 carries a booster, it can only be within range PL17
But this way, no plane can safely carry it

But even just GPS or GPS+SAL would be more than enough from that weapon system right now.

And thats only if Brimstone doesnt get an IOG buff. Should be barely any drift

I want to know how Gaijin will make IRIST and FB-10A Is their guidance mode DL+IR or pure IR

Hopefully they and the Spyder get DL so their ranges aren’t severely handicapped.

If only IR is available, the range of both missiles will be reduced by at least half

The IRIS-T won’t be reduced by that much, but it’ll be close.