More like the british centurion or the Soviet T55’s, cheap and abundant. Also M113
Well yeah that’s why AR pattern is so widespread. They are cheap, common, and good
Idk rifles so im using vehicles lol, besides F15’s are way more expensive to maintain than most other fighters on the market and don’t offer much in the way of utility that other fighters dont already have. Unless you are actively in war it seems redundant to buy one.
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M113 mentioned, what is a sensible hull.
We need more of the couple hundred M113 Frankenstein’ with all the turrets and things mounted on them.
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Norway has them with stinger launchers, would actually give sweden usable spaa between 8.7 and 10.3 that can actually look up since guided missiles with 35° is worthless lol
Also that abomination the Isreali came up with that had the 60mm gun with no gun depression lol
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doesnt the EFT have higher operating costs? also, they have much lower operating costs than 5th gen aircraft. and ive noticed ppl really underestimating the degree to which a modern F-15 can perform its tasks, i mean it has payload on every other fighter
What part am i underestimating? I simply said its just doesn’t offer anything that current market fighters cant already do. F16 is cheaper and we aren’t at war, besides we have F-35 also in our fleet. No reason to just buy a jet that will be more expensive that will sit around doing the same thing the cheaper fighter will do. F15 is a bigger price for none of the benefit when we realistically don’t need it. Besides if anything happens we have all our neighbors to help with joint operations.
fair enough, for north europe purposes F-35 and Gripen E + F-16 will be just fine since you will only be going against 1 country with a ton of support from NATO if worst comes to worst
but for US, the extreme range strike and raw payload is very useful against the variety of threats we may encounter
each is better suited for their own countries needs (and budgets)
You also forget the EFT and Rafale, we have decent ties with Britain and France so if anything its more than just the Gripen and F-35. Again the F15 is entirely redundant to 90% of nations since we aren’t going to war, and even if we do we have each other and also 5th gen vehicles. Literally no reason for the F15 since again, its going to be doing the same job as the F16’s but its more expensive its a waste of money that could be used to further our society imo.
If I recall correctly:
I know China could get the one with a M24 turret.
The Aussies out a scorpion turret one there’s.
We but the SS.11 missiles one ours(as long with the standard recoilless rifle, and TOW ones)
There’s the one with the Belgian turret.
I can think of these ones off the top of my head.
There are 3 things that would be super cool to see
- More Styker and LAV variants
- More US missile Td’s
- Very early anti rad missiles with early advance SAMs
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US flying M113 ;)
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More Canadian LAV’s to the UK ;)
Also where is the Lav 105 snail i need it
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See why didn’t the US invest in this thing? Honestly F15 couldn’t fight back against the power of the M113, M113 will probably outlive the F15…
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idk, m113 probably phased out around 2030, F-15 i think is going until 2040-2050
B-52 will never be retired though
You forget how many nations still use M113, the M8 greyhound is still in service in Mexico and Brazil
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Let’s not get to where American made Canadian equipment should go. But yes I would love the Lav105 and Lav 25 and 35. Also the hellfire stykers are super cool
Buff will bomb on forever
as GDLS-C is subsidiary of USA company, and US is primary operator of LAV and stryker (LAV III derivative), so all LAV to USA tt
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