Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

It’s not like the UK are lacking in a way that the F-117 will fix lol.

Keep thinking that the F-117C will do well in ground RB. It’s laughable.

Highly doubt it. The F-16 is already really strong, if most people can’t spawn that thing or do well enough in it another high spawnpoint option won’t change shit.

Not even counting all the Clickbaits with no air tree researched.

ASEAN imo would be the best option for Japan (as much as I want SK) it would fill every single gap in the entire tech tree which obviously includes the mentioned nations, Singapore and Thailand would fix top tier ground and SOME air but there will still be massive gaps in the mid and low tiers I THINK

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Do you have a link to the proposed tree?

I wish I did in not even sure if there is one im purely basing this off of what research and looking ive done into what each nation has fielded and what they do currently field

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The ground tree and air tree suggestions were passed to the devs, here they are:
Ground: Thailand sub-tree : Ground tree
Air: Thailand sub-tree : Aviation tree
There are more vehicles that have been either entered into service (Like the AT-6TH), ordered (JAS39E) or more has been discovered about them since them, like the F-5E SCU and F-5TH Super Tigris.

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That’s Thailand though. I’m talking Indonesia and (to a lesser extent, Singapore). Imo, Indonesia specifically, is a good subtree for China.

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Thats fair I was more speaking about ASEAN as a whole

I don’t mind it either, although Imo vehicles should be chosen more wisely in such case. If some unique or at least modified tech exists it should be used over copypaste and try to not mix lines.
For example looking at Hungary/Romania there is a lot of unnecessary copypaste: 2S1 could be changed to Model 89, T-72M1 to Hungarian T-72M Currus and Romanian TR-125, ZSU-23-4 and ZSU-57-2 (idk who thought it was a good idea to C&P them) there are multiple Italian vehicles which can take their place like OF-40 PRTL, M320 Porcupine and M113 AA prototypes.
On the other hand I still hope that more unique designs will come with time and copies would be mostly hidden in folders so people who start research won’t have to grind them unless they want to strengthen their setups.

indonesia has no tangible relations with china though

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Hi @Smin1080p_WT
I have been a long time advocated for addition of Indian vehicles to the game. I would have personally preferred a commonwealth TT but even a British subtree is acceptable. I am however disappointed by the lack of any actual Indian vehicles in the normal tree. Its just been special vehicles, squadron vehicles, premiums, pack premiums and event vehicles

I feel like GB is severely lacking behind the other nations when it comes to modern vehicles and the Indian subtree would neatly fill any gaps left by a lack of suitable British vehicles.

I don’t want to go off the leaks for obvious reasons but even they didn’t mention anything about Indian vehicles.

Just very disappointed to not see the largest voluntary armed force in the world not being represented appropriately in the game.

If you could shed any light on what Gaijin has planned for the Indian subtree. If there are ANY plans to bring Indian vehicles in a significant way that would be great. I don’t want to keep hoping and get disappointed every update. Also as an addendum, I made a bug report on this Indian decal that has gone unnoticed for 4 months now. Could you also please look into it as well.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/E9v5vqbkSgbO

Thank you

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I don’t mind copy and paste sub tree vehicles from other nations if they have a need for them. Like the Swiss 18C for Germany, the OSA for Italy etc.

However I don’t think “I want X vehicle in Y tree because it would be fun” is a good reasoning. Like China shouldn’t get an F-15 “just because it’s fun”, while they have enough domestic options.

At that point you might ad well start deleting trees altogether and make 5 giant universal trees, for helis, ground, air and naval.

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Vehicle decoration. If this decoration can be destroyed vengeance will be mine for doggo.

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We need doggo decorations in War Thunder, starting with @Gunjob 's dog.

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There’s more than just these two, and also non Sino-Soviet equipment operated by other countries.

China has many options. Pakistan, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Laos, Cambodia and North Korea are ones that come to mind for me, and I know for a fact there’s more. All That while already having two Chinese nations with their separate militaries combined in a tree, one of which being a military superpower.

So why take from the smaller pool of western aligned nations that are friendly towards Japan?

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I’ll send you the link once it’s done and passed, there happens to be one currently in the making.

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SU-34 referenced in the datamine, for people that weren’t convinced

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Questions were less about whether there’s Su-34 files or not, and more about whether its actually coming this update or not.

Fair enough. This doesn’t mean it’s coming this update, but I would say it makes it more probable

it’s flight performance is worse, similar Air to Air loadout, and good but CAS loadout.
The problem is still how gaijin model it’s radar.