Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

that will be a controversial take

Tornado F3 Late in game right now should technically have ASRAAM not Aim-9M.

They recieved ASRAAM in the same upgrade program that gave them AMRAAM (even before the F3 got data-link, they had ASRAAM)

Aim-9M was added to them in Op Granby, so technically the early version should have Aim-9M.

Both the Sea Harrier FA2 and Harrier Gr7 could also technically get ASRAAM

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Tornado F3 early-late 9M
Tornado F3 late-late ASRAAM

Gotcha.

The more I see Tornado’s get stronger, the bigger the chance there is a premium one to jump into at a lower Br.

question do you know if the gr7’s rwr is incorectly performing as it puts almost everything as a ? when pinging it

Doesn’t it have like the most powerful radar in the world? Or am I confusing it with something else?

Flame has a good suggestion for a Tornado F3 for inbetween the F3 and the F3 late;

but Im doubting ASRAAM for the F3 late, I think they went with “late” so they could roll the various upgrades into one. I think Aim-120C5s are possible though.

Tornado F3 CSP - ASRAAM + Aim-120B but no DL
Tornado F3 AOP - ASRAAM + Aim-120B now with DL (what we have in game)
Tornado F3 FSP - ASRAAM + Aim-120C5s

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I know its RWR was designed more for dealing with ground threats rather than air threats, but im not really sure why it pings things as “?” though I’ve also not played it much of late and so not sure what could be pinging it to do that, might be worth asking in the Harrier II thread

Curious to see what it’ll be!

What could we expect from a Saudi (premium/event) ADV Tornado? Like, what missiles and radar would it get?

blog there yet?

I think basically identical to the Tornado F3, but Aim-7 instead of Skyflash (iirc).

Id guess the Saudi ADV would be set up to be a premium version of the (12.0) F3, pretty much like for like.

Saudi Tornado IDS though could have some interesting things, Id guess at 11.3 one, so no guided stuff, but could use the DAMOCLES targetting pod if it came at 11.7. They also tended to use american bombs and not british one, but did have access to british bombs like the Mk13

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pls give me a late refit of either of howe or nelson

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I’d 100% go for that.

Personally not interested in another premium IDS, especially if it doesn’t get Guided ordinance.

Yeah, Saudi ADV would have been a way better premium than BISON.

An IDS at 11.3 is very interesting to me, could be fun in GRB at 10.3, especially as thats the BR i play most. Also in Sim, the premium reward + lower BR over the Gr1 is quite appealing. Gr1 at top tier GRB is essentially DOA at this point.

But im hoping our next premium aircraft is the Harrier Gr5A. Basically a direct equal to the AV- 8B(NA). I really miss playing a Harrier II at a usable BR. 12.7 is WAY too high

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Thats fair i imediately went to the Flakrad

QQ20241016-195843
Translation:
IR missles with Imaging infrared seekers is coming?
Otherwise the new “visual” text cannot be explained in other ways.

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I love the NA but don’t think I’d buy a 70$ British copy for it. (British copy in WT, irl I suppose the NA is an American copy)

Yep, GR5A would hold some advantages, Still had MAWS and BOL I beleive but wouldnt have the JDAM spam, which is quite tempting.

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True

I fly the NA mostly air to air so MAWS would make it better. Interesting.

It’s just developers forgetting to add certain radars. Happens almost every update when a new (unique) jet radar is added, F-15A after the new radar was for some time “?”, Gripen when added was for some time “?”. Mirage 4k on release in fact was so unknown that it did not even give radar launch warnings.

Same goes for a lot of SPAA radar, but almost all of the “?” radars are for gun spaa, so it’s not hugely pressing. But in a way, some older RWR are better at classifying these than modern RWR because of this.

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