Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

I really hope Gaijin changes this in time, literally any other country in the game would ve a better fit than China by either having a technical connection or at least a similar NATO alignment.

China can still receive ASEAN countries if they need to, but please countries like Myanmar, Laos or Cambodia, not Singapore.

I sincerely hope Gaijin realize their mistake in time

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ill be honest here
all i need from this update to be happy are 2 things:
1.Sead
2.Ability to move TGP by just looking at MFD and moving Target designator around

all the new vehicles and all can go to hell :clueless:

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I think we have talked about this potential issue enough, if Gaijin cares they know it will be a controversial decision with at least the English speaking community as well as players from ASEAN. All we can do now is wait and see what they do

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I reckon SEAD is not coming this update.

Sea Harrier HUDs being finished and the Tornado Gr4 (even not necessarily with all the bells and whistles like Brimstone, but enough of an upgrade over the Gr1 to be a worthy addition). Along with hte promised new rank VI ship would make this one of the better updates for me this year (most have been total disapointments)

But yeah, Proper SEAD gameplay would be very fun, especially if it was intergrated into Sim in a half decent manner

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Are you sure GR4 won’t come in a completely butchered state?

Yeah I know but I personally don’t see why that affects the Br in air battles in a way that the higher Br-ed one is waaaay worse against other aircraft.

The bare minimum Im hoping for from the Gr4

  • Mk103 engines
  • a Tpod better than Gen 1 (hopefully Litening III)
  • BOL
  • TERMA
  • A new A2G weapon type (Brimstone, ePaveway, ALARM, Storm Shadow)
  • HMS (even if its just for A2G weapons like it was IRL)

and that would make me happy. Im doubting major issues like the ground radar systems will be fixed anytime soon and probably wont have ASRAAM this early. Also I would expect Brimstones to be rather handicapped, but I dont think they would be totally unreasonable at the moment with the right mitigation

Also not expecting it BUT Gaijin is known to put higher tiered A2A weapons on lower tiered airframes. I know there isn’t an exact precedent like this because usually those higher tiered A2A weapons would also be on a top tier airframe but I’m not saying it’s impossible.

Tornado Gr4 is my prediction for the first aircraft with ASRAAM. It simply has the most limitations. Even the Jaguar Gr3A which trialed ASRAAM, has the advantage of HMS (for A2A) which pushes it slightly ahead of the Gr4 in my books.

But I dont think we are quite there yet for ASRAAM.

Very possible!

Good to contain your hopium. If we’re not there yet then I think we will be soon.
I suppose if we get a new Br like 14.0 then the Gr4 could go there if the ASRAAM is too strong.

Any predictions for today’s dev blog (assuming we get one) scimitar?

WW2 plane pls 🙏

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F/A-18’s prob waiting for teaser.
Leaked BP stuff waiting until next week.

Dunno whats today. Scimitar could be, yeah. Unless they don’t want two ground vehicles in the UK tree consecutively.

VT 1 also only has 2 launches before reload Pantsir has 8

Its ability to keep pressure on a target cannot be understated

I’d probably not place the Tornado Gr4 much higher than 13.0 with 2x ASRAAM. It is at the end of the day, still a Tornado IDS and if it only has Aim-9Li/Aim-9M I’d struggle to place it much higher than 11.7 or maybe 12.0.

Also, Im not expecting ASRAAM to be anywhere near IRL performance, probably not going to much harder to flare than Aim-9M, R-73 or Magic II are when fired within 1km but instead it will be more like 5km. As for range, that would be mitigated by lack of radar, same for off-boresight potential.

Im basically imagining something like an Aim-9M, that is faster off the rails, turns like a magic II and has a range about half that of an AMRAAM (if it can lock)

Good, but not necessarily good enough to be punching through a wall of F-15Cs spamming AMRAAM. But I think for it to come, we need other aircraft suitable for Gen 5 IRs and they will be at higher BRs. Also dragging it up to fight 14.0s would mitigate the downtiers somewhat

Hopefully a boat.

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I don’t think there is anything for the US ground that really is iconic and could be end of the line besides an MBT.

However iconic is between “…” so it might not be really iconic.

one can only hope

Well, I actually mean ITO-90M, Flarakrad is in an awkward position now.