Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

Thats because its only .2 t

In the russian version you can add the add on track armor and then it weighs 32.2t so again its still a debuff

Worse, 99mm ap, 96mm aphe

At that BR the armor wont help if you can fight back
(Not that the armor would save you anyways)

I did make a bug report for it

Fair enough

Yay… this will be fun
as a Swedish main I’m definitely getting it, but looks like it’ll be a struggle

I wouldn’t buy it, it has no real lineup without uptiering it and imagine fighting a panther F with it? Or a tiger?

Youd be paying to be free sl

If it goes down to a BR(or has a decent lineup) where its not playing constant uptiers maybe id recommend it

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it’s at 5.0 right? 5.0 Sweden has a relatively decent lineup already.
You have the DT and a TD already, although I get the point that it lacks anything decent for 5.0, so yeah you’re probably right and wait for it to go down in BR or get better penetration.

Wont get better pen, 5.0 has 1 good tank and the other is a meh TD with no use imo. The majority of swedish TD’s are pretty mid but since there is like 7 people who actually play the TT they stay at high BR’s

fair enough

A.) As I pointed out the Netherlands supply the Top BR MBT.

How many times are you people going to need to be told it’s a Joint Command the Netherlands still has full control over its ground forces and what it buys.

The Skyranger 30 would be best, as it would be the most unique and would add something not already in game, however I’m expecting the PuBo, as it would be much easier to make due to the turret already being in game.

I really want the skyranger 30 tbh

And how many times are you going to be told that even as a Joint Command, Netherlands still don’t LITERALLY have its own Ground Forces?

And yes, it’s not under Germans’ control, it’s just LITERALLY intergrated into German Military System.

Netherlands now only LITERALLY has RNLAF and RNN.

KV1 zis5 at 4.7 is like a disaster, it should be 4.3, by the way, don’t forget german also has a similar KV1 at 5.0, which has 75mm gun

I mentioned the gun. And yes the Zis-5 is pretty bad. Especially when you have the very good t34-57. The prem KV-1A will be more of a kick to the balls for anyone who buys it

Hope they will put it back in next BR change, USSR 76mm at 4.7 is like a joke

I think its more of a problem of volumetric. Its why the T34 (1941) went up, if i wiggle my turret its EZ kills.

Fun fact nothing I found supports that claim. but hey I guess under the joint command of NORAD the RCAF is part of the USAF oh wait it isn’t because Joint means both nation’s corporate equality.

But hey you want to know who told me about how it is, it was the Dutch right here on the forums. So you’re telling me, the people whose home country is involved don’t know they own military?

But hey you’re the one telling me the German government can tell Dutch people to go die against their government’s will. That is neither integration nor cooperation. Only German units bearing the names of Dutch units, not Dutch units.

I mean the T34 was nutty and still is

You obviously thinks that I’m talking about the real control of army.

Nope, it’s just about the Military Establishment.

And from every aspect, the Netherlands ground force will be a brigade unit with 50000 people, intergrated into the German Military System.
It’s not Dutch & Germany, just Germany. Well, at least literally is.

You are confounding the definition, the military cooperation between Netherlands and Germany is complicated. But with no more documents released to public, there will only be Deutsches Heer and its own military establishment.

I would not deny the Dutch actual control of their Army. The cooperation could provide better resource allocation, strengthening the Dutch Military. IMO the intergration (actual control not included) is what Netherlands sacrificed, government might pay much to Germany

After all, my point is that the relationship between Euro Countries is much more complicated than it seems, and setting sub trees just based on WWII or relationships even earlier is ill-conceived for Gaijin