Mavs fired from the A-10 will be so slow that the pantsir might even have time to shoot down the A-10 itself before also shooting down the mav.
It’ll be absolutely be doa at 12.0 and never worth taking into your lineup lol.
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I mean SM3 is 12.7 RN.
it’s more like a pantsir issue. many people cry about su-25sm3, but it will also become free rp if meet pantsir. in top, sm3 is slow enough I think
from my friend’s experence, it’s not that impossible to kill a pantsir, as long as with fnf missile, targeting pod, and useable mobility. mark the respawn point, hide under horizon, pull up and fire, then dive amd run. pantsit’s radar search slowly, and hard to find things near horizon(0 degree depression)
But reminder, PANTSIR will not be met by Su25T/Su39, so it is unfair to compare the range cause 12km is still within PANTSIR range but not ADATS (lol not even a real AA). Also reminder it can carry 16 Vikhers 9M127 so it can kill any SPAA with ATGMs whilst flying slowly, as it even flies faster than some AA missiles (600m/s)
It can intercept AGM65s pretty easily, plus it can always spam 30mm rounds to stop it, double safety. Things like TOR or Roland can’t perform in the same way, Tor is way too slow to respond and Roland lacks a gun anyways.
Armed AGM-65G-2 & AGM-65K or AGM-65K & AGM-65L
Would be 11.7 BR minimum for GRB
AN/AAQ-28(V)4 Litening AT or AN/AAQ-33 Sniper XR pod, GBU-12 Paveway II laser guided bomb and GPS precision-guided munition
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11.7 vs things like Su39 is not fair (unless their complaints actually earns it R77 which I doubt it will) cause Su39 does get same if not better loadouts with R73.
whats not fair about it
plane to plane, spaa to spaa, this is a fair way of comparison imo. if other factors are comsidered, it would be like “a resonable unbalance”.
and kh-38 is not that unstoppable, in 12km away, it takes 25s to reach, and agm-65 about 40s, you can also shoot it down.
poor adats, it’s always this problem, not su-25t/39. when acting as spaa it only slightly better than 2s6, so this is not like su-25t too strong, but adats too weak. the 16 9m127 is not bery useful when against spaa, it’s kh29t’s job, it’s good when all spaa is cleared, then it can destroy tanks efficiently
SDBs are considerably longer range than any maverick, even being dropped from an A-10. They are GPS glide weapons, not dumb EO bombs.
And you can carry 32 of them iirc, at minimum 16 with the 6 mavs.
What are the differences between the mavs already in game and these 3?
Is this really an advantage on a plane that can barely drop them from 2-3km away?
Lets be honest. If you place it at 11.7 it’ll just be free RP for the Pantsir and even ito/tor. Placing it at 12.0 or higher just makes it DOA because there is not a single reason to put it in your lineup over the AV-8B+ and F-16C.
No, but they are still included in the game, which is why I want them all to be separated.
It’s excellent, a fantastic solution for the entire subtree and additional nations issues we’ve been facing.
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it will crash ito and tor, as it can fire out of their range. it’s not passible it would be same or even lower than su-25t/39, with has no thermal, ir missiles.
It’s mavs will be so slow, because the A-10 as a launch platform is just a cripplingly slow shitcan, that the ito and tor will have no problem shooting them down lmao. You only have 6 mavs and they have at least 8 missiles, so good luck.
you have airport, and they can’t reach you when you just hanging away in 12km
*cries in flarakrad, adats, type 81c and Israel *
So it’ll just be a standoff. You can’t kill them and they can’t kill you.
Boy do I love flying in circles doing nothing for 5-10 minutes until a CAP fighter comes hunting my ass.
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Hell even the FlaRakRad and ADATS should be able to shoot some of the mavs down. Remember that it’s an already pretty slow missile shot from a shitbucket that barely goes past 650 km/h. The mavs will have no speed/energy.
no, usually 2-3 can destroy them before they shoot down every missile. and they can’t reload but you can.
if it’s so easy to shoot down a missile, why su-25sm3 can kill a spaa usually by just 1 kh-38. it still takes it more than 25s to reach.