Pretty sure the Fokker G1 would go before the P-51.
As much as I love it, I think the P-51 is likely better.
Also, H-75 in there somewhere early on.
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I hope they do. The differences and oppressiveness of MICA EM compared to other fox 3s were nowhere near what the R-27ER did to AIM-7F and other missiles. If Gaijin had no problem with R-27ER having a large gulf in capabilities compared to other missiles, then they shouldn’t have an issue now just because a NATO country got it.
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A man of taste.
I mean we haven’t even got the first blog yet so I wouldn’t stick for the G1 this early
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The only time I see the mica being oppressive is if its 180 capability is improved and it is able to chase after completing the 180 which the spinning out of control and the seeker usually would lose track rear aspect which i would imagine will be improved from the test.
R-27 is not nearly as oppressive as people think it is, it can be entirely avoided by simply hugging the deck: something which was already being done after the introduction of the AIM-54. Most of my missile kills are with the R-73.
Unlike every other Fox-3 however the MICA is capable of close-range high off-boresight launches which makes the very difficult to defend against.
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I could apply this to every missile including the mica
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Say that when you are in a Tornado F3 vs Mig-29s with R-27ER 100% of the time in SB. That DL+IOG just gives them an advantage way and above what others have. Aim-7/Skyflash lawndart at 300ft. R-27ER needs to be like 50ft.
and thats not including the 1.4 Mach speed advantage they have
Yes but the MICA can be used in a dogfight. The others, not so much.
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the radar minimum range doesnt allow it to most of the time not to mention you are stuck in pd which makes it much harder to get a lock during a dog fight
The combination of R-27ER and R-73 is oppressive especially in Air RB.
Don’t forget to add the R-27ET to the mix.
With the Su-27, you can now use long range radar missiles (R-27ER), long range stealthy IR missiles (R-27ET) and a close range high off bore sight IR missile (R-73) all in the same 10x missiles loadout.
Arguably this has been more oppressive than the MICA EM which can only be taken 6 at the most. You have to sacrifice 1 or 2 MICA EM to take IR missiles that are useable against the ground.
It’d be the most iconic Dutch aircraft for a BeNeLux tree…which is exactly why we won’t get it 😂
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Everybody talking about iconic planes for the Benelux Tech tree like dude I want this iconic ship.
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What ship? Thats just that wierd island that keeps moving
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Knowing gaijin that’s exactly my fear… Or that it’ll become an event vehicle. Ohh boy the fear…
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You are over-estimating the value of the R-27. Despite the fact the Su-27 can carry six R-27, it is consistently rated among the lower end of top-tier jets (12.0 - 12.7). The is because people have learned to play around it and the meta now overwhelmingly favours jets like the Gripen and F-16C due to their dog-fight performance, which is an area where the Su-27 is lacking.
And the R-27ET is basically just a meme missile. Its long burn time means it’s very easy to spot and I find most of the time it misses simply because whoever I’m targeting accidently flares it while they are defending against some other missile. Or they just have automatic CM release on.
You might be right, I don’t play sim and I don’t think Gaijin does either.
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No, no they dont.
The difference to other sarh missiles is the r27er has a massive no escape zone talking about ground hugging is irrelevant.
R-27ET is almost useless because of how incredibly flare-hungry it is. R-73 has a high NEZ but it is flare susceptible.
The ARH are almost uniquely immune to countermeasures and require long range to be able to notch.
Hug the deck, but the second you go above the tiny safe altitude, you die.
If we didn’t have the multipathing, we’d have no gameplay next patch. Or I’m unsure what the gameplay would even look like.
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