I doubt BeNeLux is coming, also, however I’m just expressing what may happen in the event that it does come for France.
I mean reading is a part where most WT players fail at 😂
I’m just afraid we just got only Dutch, with very little logical links to that nation, and this would block us to have Belgium, where link are strong specially today in modern time (vehicles, tech, tactics…)
I was just saying its about the principle :3, ofc Europe can produce same quality or better, just that even if the quality is worse and more expensive, still would be better to buy European in fairness of solidarity.
For me, the ideal is BeNeLux + Switzerland together, because of the close military ties that Belgium and Switzerland have, which would more than make very large and strong trees.
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You’re missing my point.
How can someone proclaim something to be a “subnation” when no official statements are made?
For all we know there could be something Argentinian that’s being made for the US tree, thus meaning that the idea of Argentina being a “subnation” is wrong to begin with.
I simply dislike it when terms are made for things that aren’t set in stone, regardless of whether it’s interpretation or fact.
It frames a situation in one way while it is in fact uncertain.
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Cool…
That sounds like an issue that would be resolved if more countries including Germany participated in the Mk3 project. Seems like to me its a contradictory statement. You can’t reduce maintenance costs and increase availability of parts if you don’t do your part in ordering large number of aircrafts to make reduced maintenance costs and increased # of parts a viability.
They tried (special contracts with Airbus) and that still failed to meet the German needs. France wasn’t doing too hot either in fact, 29% availability in 2019, that btw, was a lower availability rate than Germany’s pre-Airbus contract. The problem is that Tiger is very costly to maintain, and it needs it more often - it also doesn’t bring in gimmics like radar, its weapon stores are rather limited (best case scenario is 12 AGMs [PARS 3] but that sacrifies utility and self defence). Secondly, that first involved building a customerbase, that is something Mk.3 doesn’t have - Germany knows it.
You can’t refuse to buy a certain European product on the basis that there’s not enough parts, but then run to American products, buying it, and helping to reduce the maintenance costs and increasing the availability of parts by the simple action of ordering their vehicles. F-35 wouldn’t be as cheap as it is if it wasn’t for the multitude of countries ordering it.
Then make a case for Tiger to be chosen by more countries? It isn’t as simple as “hey, buy this product so we can lower the price”. Germany saw Australia ditch the Tiger in favour of a US made system, saw that Mk.III won’t bring in the improvements they want to see, so, they decided its simply not worth it.
As an American, I’m of the opinion that European countries should buy European products even if it is slightly higher in price or slightly lower in quality. You can’t blame a product for not having the benefits of mass scale production if you’re not willing to give it mass scale production.
As a European, I agree. However, in some cases American made weapons are much more convenient (such as the Apache), it’s already a maintstay of some of Germany’s closest allies (Netherlands) and is seeing more and more success in Europe (Poland). I’m not blaming the product for not having a good consumer base, I’m blaming the product for being unnecessarily hard to maintain, which is true of the Tiger - that is also a problem with Airbus.
Like I said earlier, I don’t agree with them ditching the helicopter, but I understand why they did.
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i am afraid that we go to France. That means we never see our modifications. ships, helicopters, submarines and most of our vehicles in general.
and then the worst part would be, that all of our TT will be C&P and our unique stuff will be event/battlepass or premium only.
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That’s how he personally identifies them. He never said that it’s official or that anyone else should use it. It’s the same as using a nickname for a vehicle.
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I see, I see.
Anyway, I’m not the one to tell that, France has been trying for over 10 years to get the message across that Europe must stand up on its own without being dependent on others, but our neighbours are buying the F-35, so…
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BAC TSR.2 same thing (prototype with mounting points, even the schemes have hanging options) can Britain receive it?
It’s like saying gaijin confirms that the Canadian Leo will be in Germany because it’s German.
But yea some people just can’t help creating false narratives against me to feul their ego. 😂.
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no, because these rules are only for Russia.
Speaking about Belgium pov?
Sad to read that ^^’ But you have a point, i guess.
Would love to see them all along ours :p
Or give them all to France :p
Would also upset the German if Swiss come to France so it’s another good point.
It would be the first LoV event to have an aircraft as a prize.
no, i’d much rather prefer France alone with their unique stuff.
And BeNeLux with Schweiz or Indonesia (if they need it (which they wont)).
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Ach so.
You’d think someone who claims to be British would be better at the English language than this