Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

I believe it should also have a MAW, here is an image showing some of its features.

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thank god

su25t grind was a pain at 11.0, an actual dircm would make it somewhat nice

Would be necessary for the DRICM to work I believe, as it directly targets the missile

I do want the Su39 or something like it in tech tree

I understand, it’s similar to what we see on the Ka-52 and Mi-28NM in game now.

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@Smin1080p is there any info on the more modern su25 for the tech tree? no info on it since may

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Actually your right, it’s the exact same system, Vitebsk-25

I dont think the AV-8B+s could carry that many. I think its more like 2x Aim-9M and 4x AMRAAM.

FA2 though is going to be 4x AMRAAM or 2-4x Aim-9M and 2x AMRAAM

Yeah, I reckon 12.3 currently. Heck if the F-15 is 12.3, then what is essentially a 10.7 aircraft with upgrades cant be any higher than the F-15

Maybe just the British can carry 4x?? Hope it can carry 6… I do not see why it can’t while the American and Italian seem to be able too.

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One on the right is Sea Harrier FA2 (British Harrier IIs , like the Gr7 and Gr9, didnt have any kind of radar) The Sea Harriers only have 4x AAM hardpoints max

but fair enough on the AV-8B+, thought they only had 6 AAM hardpoints. But we’ll see what they will do. I can see it having a little bit of an AAM cap just to help mitigate its BR. Whilst the Harrier IIs have better handly, the FA2 will without a doubt have the better radar (maybe even the best radar in the game when it it is added) but I can imagine they will want to keep them at a similar BR

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the UK Sea Harrier FA.2 was based on the older GR.1 style of harrier with only 4 wing hardpoints where as the AV8B+ is the Harrier II with the 6 wing hardpoints.

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Isn’t the PS-05/A on the Gripen a derivative of the Blue Vixen ? I don’t see how the performance difference would be so large.

It was co-developed by the same people who made the Blue Vixen, and did share some of the tech and research for it. Its possible that the Gripens radar (if/when we actually get it) will be comparible in performance.

I do not know much about the British one but it looks more optimal for air to air missions. more streamline and less massive bubble canopy for aerodynamics. The pilot sits more atop it it seems rather more than the other variants more optimal for visibility upward and behind.

I think the British is faster is that true?

Maybe but in warthunder those advantages are basically meaningless because 2 more missiles> is better than more visibility (unless your playing sim but even then id argue 2 more AMRAAM or AIM-9 would still be superior)

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Iduno I play top tier only so I am not too sure.

imo 6x R27ERs are better than 4x. 6x R73s have a greater advantage over 4x any day of the week.

4x Aim9Ms are better than 2x. Missile count is something that has proven to tilt the battle greatly in your favor. Seems like IRL too.

Then again the harrier looks like it might be severely limited on performance with that many. Then again I do not know much about either Harriers.

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The Original Sea harrier (the Sea Harrier FRS1) was a modified Harrier I (Gr1, Gr3 and Gr5) that was better suited for A2A combat, perticular for operating from British Carriers (and well proven in the Falklands)

the FA2 was a direct upgrade of the FRS1. Replacing the radar, avionics and engine and most importantly, adding AMRAAM(B). They were argubly Britains best A2A fighter from 1992 until the Typhoon in 2003.

The FA2 does have the same Mk105 engine as the Gr7 and other Harrier IIs and possibly might get a little more speed due to the smaller wing ( and thus less drag) but also has the added cost of reduce maneuvability,

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Both Harrier II and Sea Harrier Have fairly equal cockpit visibility. So no real clear advantatge in that sense. But the vastly superior radar in the FA2 will be a notable advantatge.

To be honest, Missile load in SB is a minor consideration, as you will often RTB long before expending all missiles, in part due to how the economy works and partly because of fuel.

But in ARB, the AV-8B+ will likely be better as it has more AAMs, doesnt have to sacrifice guns and has the better handling. Though I think the FA2 has more CMs as it will have the option for BOL Depending on the performance of AMRAAM, the FA2 might also be the better for actual BVR combat due to the better radar (despite haivng less AMRAAM)

(though I still want my FA2)

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Island tax

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