spoiler: all of the above are just versions of the same tanks
but you knew that, so you claiming type 10 is a version of type 90 then, intressting
or might it be that the example you gave is mute
It’s F-15J MSIP if this is the Fox 3 update, if not it’s the (X)F-2. I guess there could be a subtree aircraft too like a Thai F-5TH, but I doubt that this early in the year.
They likely use a similar vertical drive.
And 2A5s still switched to a new vertical drive which matches the performance of the old hydraulic system.
40 degree per second stabilizer.
Type 10 and Type 90 stab speed is likely around that speed as well but I don’t have docs on hand to know for certain.
Once Gaijin separates stab and input speeds for stabilized tanks those reports will be important.
If its not AMRAAM update, then no guarantee they’ll get anything.
Sweden is getting Gripen C
US always get something so they are likely.
Italy is the only nation without top tier A2A currently. So I guess they’ll get something.
But after that. Maybe no other nations will get something for Air. (With how unfinished all the last lot of aircraft are, they are gunna need an entire update just to finish them)
That is the same tank in different variants. The Type 10 and the Type 90 are completely different tanks. The Type 10 is even shown to have faster traverse than the Type 90, we just lack concrete numbers for it.
only that we are spreaking of a entirly new gun with a vastly different breach and mantled structure in a completly new tank
while the Leopards breach area largly stayed the same
Why do you think that?
Oh that’s true, I didn’t think about a sub-tree. Could be that Thai F-16 to follow the F-16AJ.
of course you dont, and still youre making assumtions which you cant prove
3 Likes
I actually doubt they’d let the F-2 wait until after Fox 3 considering the earlier ones were limited to SARH. It seems strange to let such a popular aircraft be added past its time of relevance.
2 Likes
Its possible. Though advanced SARH aircraft vs early ARH aircraft could be what they have planned. Though Tornado F3 was also added way after it would have been relevant. So not always a gurantee
I made zero assumptions, please avoid provocative language.
And yes, 2A5 has an entirely new turret to 2A4 and prior as well with no compatibility.
@MAUSWAFFE
Video isn’t allowed as evidence because of many reasons.
It is possible to intentionally go slower for the purposes of showing off, which is why documents are preferred.
@MXY7_Ohka_when
It’s a likely probability because other nations implement input-limits for gunners as well.
I’m not concluding that, I’m just offering the possibility.
5 Likes
the type 10 does use a different vertical drive to the type 90 since they did need a new drive for it
Thanks for proving I posted no assumptions.
I appreciate you admitting your previous accusations incorrect.
As you and everyone else can see I posted nothing with certainty. “Likely” is a word of uncertainty, not certainty.
@UnHolySausage
As does 2A5 over 2A4 & earlier.
Having the same input limits in-place makes training easier as well for re-training crews on the new tanks.
1 Like
Point 1. READ
2 Likes
It isn’t, which is why I said the numbers are missing. It is shown to be better on the Type 10 than the Type 90. There is no number on it available. Gaijins value is guesswork, and more specifically copied directly from the Type 90. This is not because the Type 90 is equal, but because the Type 10 has no available numbers.
So we know it’s wrong and should be better, but are missing the numbers to tell Gaijin how much.
4 Likes
only that 2A4 and 2A5 use the same gun and the same breach area meaning the same weight that the mechanism has to work with
They really need to establish a methodology for guess-timating values or at least basing them off secondary sources.
The gun isn’t the vertical drive.
That and the vertical drive goes at least 40 degrees per second, which is the stabilizer specification.
We’re not talking about the stabilizer speed though, we’re talking about the FCS-limited gunner input speed.