No, but we can look at what they said regarding the Gripen. Early 2023 (February) they said Gripen would come soon. It ended up being added nearly a year later. So within that context, we can understand soon to mean more than a year. Keep in mind that Smin recently said on discord that Eurofighter is “too soon” last month which is December of 2023.
I reckon he will keep saying that even a week before its annoucned. Means nothing, its just PR statement, he will probably give that same answer to almost any other aircraft.
But the point is. You cant sit on the EFT or Rafale for that much longer. The moment aircraft like the F-15C are added, Typhoon/Rafale are 100% on the table to be added in the same update. And F-15C could be coming as soon as March, Maybe June. Whilst we all know they like keeping minor nations a year behind the Major ones. doesnt mean they are required to
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He was saying it far earlier than that, pre Kings of Battle iirc in UK forums mostly.
You say that but i just don’t see it
Not really. Gaijin and Smin will stop talking about it or say that its coming soon. Not keep saying it’s too soon.
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Yes but the Jag is just barely supersonic, like Mach 1.03. It retains energy better and drifts less with 2 9L’s.
Yeah thats a fair evaluation.
Either way. I reckon Typhoon June or September. And if Typhoon and Rafale are off the table. Then so should other aircraft, like the F-15C. Its not fair that 4 nations get deneid their principle Gen 4 aircraft, but other nations are allowed to get equivalents.
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You say this like we werent stuck with Tornado versus MIG-29 and F-16 for a year.
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Not at all. They’re not comparable when they have same weapons, better flight performance, maws, lws, radar, and etc.
True, but they dont have that excuse anymore, ebcause Typhoon would be the answer for anything and everything else they could add to other TTs going forward.
F-15C is worse than those aircrafts (non-AESA radar I mean). Not fair to compare them.
Nor was it fair for Britain to be stuck with the Tornado F3 or Sweden the Viggen D for an entire year vs F-16s or Mig-29s. But they did that. The moment we get an F-15 with AMRAAM. Typhoon must be on the table. Simple. Otherwise 4 nations are DOA at top tier again
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Early Typhoons don’t have AESA
DA Typhoons have tornado engines
Yes, and they’re still vastly better than F-15C.
In what way
Radar no
Missiles no
Engine’s on the DA no
They olny difference would be the airframe
You’re right that Tornado and Gripen both could have been added much earlier than they did but it still doesn’t change the fact that F-15C is significantly worse than Eurofighter/Rafale.
and the DA2 would also have reduced AoA as it was missing some of the avionics that the full Typhoons would have
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The DA series of Typhoons can match the F15C
Some of them didn’t have AMRAAMs integrated into them, either, so no, they are not.
In flight performance and situational awareness. Even the radar as well because to my understanding both Rafale and Eurofighter have better gimbal limits.
Rafale and Eurofighter both also have IRST + MAWS + LWS making it a better platform. Fact is, AESA F-15s and F-16s would be needed to properly compete against non-AESA Rafale/Eurofighter.