I wouldn’t want a Tornado, Bucc or Harrier or anything like that as the UK high tier premium, i’d rather they finally added a capable platform in the form of a fighter to the UK’s rank 6/7 because playing the same bad vehicles over and over again is getting exhausting.
Hell i’d take a SAAF aircraft as a premium over any of those in a heartbeat.
That said, I can understand why some people enjoy that playstyle for sim but for RB and Arcade these vehicles are completely pointless both gameplay wise and monetarily for Gaijin as there are very few people who would buy such aircraft.
True, was thinking something though to match the Su-25K/Su-39 or A-10/A-6 that the US and USSR have respectively.
That could be filled with something like those mentioned. (of course also as a SB main, who likes mud moving, theyd be great SL printers as well)
So I was thinking more from the GRB perspective than the ARB one. THough it could be argued that the Sea-Vixen, Harrier Gr1 and Lightning F53 could all be really really strong if they just fixed/finished their missiles.
But plenty of options for the British TT. Britains has dozens of aircraft at all BRs theyve yet to add, not too mention export variants as well.
That is a more than fair point to be honest, the British grind is really souring me towards aircraft I used to like. But yeah for a ground pounding option they’d be able to fill some gaps but I think Britain has a real lack of good fighters post rank 5 and if they’d plug the gap with something good I wouldn’t even care if it was premium.
Certainly we agree there. Are there any more unique tornado’s the UK could get?
Would kinda prefer those on the TT though not locked behind a pay-wall
The main one that comes to mind would be the Saudi Arabian Tornado IDS. Which would be a Tornado Gr1 with different weapons, mostly American Bombs I think. (UK sold Ex-RAF Tornado Gr1s to SA, which is why it could go to Britain. Like the Lightning F53 did)
Other than that, I dont think so. But We have other options for things like Jaguar and Buc, including export versions which could fill that BR 10/11 Premium CAS
Buc we have the S2B, which would have 9Ls and Martels. Good counter for A-10/A-6
(but more than a few different variants available)
or the Buc S.50 which was the export version to South Africa. I think it would have a 9/9.3 BR but has some different weapon options (AS20/AS30 missiles for example) and a rocket booster for take-offs https://www.baesystems.com/en-uk/heritage/blackburn-buccaneer
Jag you have the Gr3A. Last version of the Jag in service Aim-9L, HMD and better engines. I reckon about 11/11.3.
Could also get an Indian Jag if you want to deal with that possiblity
Would probably rather the Gr.3A was TT but it does not deserve to be higher than 10.7 like the Harrier gains energy much better, retains it better and has VIFF i’d genuinely argue its better.
I reckon 11.0 Min for the same reason the Jaguar Gr1A doesnt have 9Ls. Its speed without bombs.
the Gr3A does have the upgraded engines, so will likely be faster than the Gr1A, but not quite as fast as a Tornado Gr1. Smaller weapons load too. But does have that HMD. I dont think it would be able to be any lower than 11.0 without giving up Aim-9Ls (its already giving up ASRAAM)
For the record, I think you’re right, but if we were balancing objectively, i’d put it at 10.7 its not a fighter airframe and has a maximum of 2 LGB’s.
The GR.1A not having 9L’s is entirely britain tax tbf, the AMX is mostly better although that may go up.
Yeah perhaps, I dunno I just cannot fathom it being the same BR as the Mig-21Bis when the difference in FM is so glaring.
Sure it has LGB’s but it gets a max of 2 and only 0.3 br higher is the JH-7A which is you but with a better wing, 2 engines producing more thrust each than yours do together, with 4 all-aspect missiles and 4 LGB’s all in one loadout.
Oh yeah, totally agree. But thats just compression for you. Could have an entire BR between the Jag Gr3 and Tornado Gr1
Isnt the AMX sub-sonic. Not really looked into it so could be wrong. Though a HAWK could be an awesome answer the AMX. Could also be a premium added as well.
Yeah. I gave basing BR on what other TTs have. I just dont know enough about their specifics.
But I was judging it based upon the Sea Harrier FRS1 with 4x 9Ls at 10.7 and the Jaguar Gr1A at 10.3 with 9Gs and gaijins total refusal to even consider 9Ls for it.
Which would naturally put it probably higher than 10.7 but it would also need to be lower the Tornado Gr1
Because he was saying no time soon back in August/September. To me, March could be considered “no time soon” back then.
Though, no new competitive aircraft for Britain, Germany, Italy and France for the whole of 2024 would suck. But at least no F-15s firing AMRAAM or Su-27 firing R-77s either until 2025. so thats something I guess