That is the point. You can add what remains to be added from a national TT. Or you can put a subTT and stretch the useful life of that nation much further. This is perfect if we think that many vehicles could never be in the game because those nations cannot support themselves and if you add to all this that you expand the representation to other regions of the world, then the sub trees may be some of Gaijin’s best inventions in recent years.
This game is based on adding vehicles every few months. At this rate and at the point we are at, without sub trees the game would not be able to maintain the current pace of updates for much longer.
This is already happening. Great Britain, Sweden and Italy extended their useful life to continue receiving vehicles in future updates. UK needed light tanks in almost all its lines. Could the UK have received its light subTT with indigenous vehicles? I’m sure I could have, but then what?
South Africa allowed the UK to complete its lineups and, at the same time, continue receiving vehicles for some time to come. The same with Sweden and Italy, these sub trees will give oxygen to these technological trees for a longer time.
SubTTs are inevitable if we want this game to receive content for many years to come. The German air TT urgently needs a subTT (unless we agree that the game is over for the German air in a few more updates).
May I once again point out that Gaijin has dug itself into the current place and doesn’t seem to want to change that.
That a tree is made up of researchable 5 lines max and that a sub-tree is 1 line.
With everything we’ve learned, it doesn’t seem like Gaijin wants to change this so we only have 3 at max but more like 2 that could take a sub-tree. This brings us to point one more tech-trees.
We still have plenty that even if they just have to last until they could get a sub-tree. It would be fine.
My assumption is that at the ends of the lines there’ll be modern tech demonstrators and experimental MBTs like the Leopard 2-140 and M1 CATTB, as well as giving NLOS missiles more of their real life capabilities and moving all vehicles with them up.
I think with naval for most tree’s you either have enough for a full tree or you don’t. Therefore subtree’s are not required. At most you can argue the UK has some CW naval additions but they were quite literally a part of the Royal Navy and the sub-nation was more like a division within the RN than an independent force.
Yes, that would have been the better way of doing so(and would have allowed for more than one sub-tree).
But we work with what we have. 5 researchable lines (Air and Ground) and 1 sub-tree (line 5).
From our more extreme Bexladux ideas: Dutch tree with large Bulgum sub-tree.
Or our less extreme Commonwealth idea(Now that it won’t have SA): Canada with an ANZAC sub-tree.
I believe that these are the only possible nations with sub-tree combos actively talked about. Or at least the only ones I’ve taken part of.
In other forums we work with a Latin American TT project, but we don’t get too excited until Gaijin shows signs of wanting to incorporate combined trees.
A TT between Argentina, Brazil and Chile can work well in the game if they do it combined.
Ya. Realistically if they were going to do combined trees we’d have a Commonwealth tree by now. Instead, we have an SA sub-tree and Canada and the ANZACs are in a really bad places in-game right now(more so one Canadas part).
So I’ve been sticking to ideas that could work if it works under the sub-tree system.
To my knowledge (and I may be wrong) Germany hasn’t officially slated it or funded integration, but there’s no reason (in my mind) to believe that they would retain the AMRAAM or AIM-260 and not choose Meteor.
Whereas Italy tagged onto the UK’s integration which was a thing wanted for F-35 essentially since Meteor entered service.
Still it would make sense for Germany to get meteor and if they get the block 4(?) upgrades they should be able to use all of the weapons that have been integrated anyway.
Same applies to Brimstone/SPEAR when LM finally get round to integrating it.