Mig-29OVT. It was the testbed for the Mig-29M it had TVC fitted which was lost on the 29M due to cost and complexity etcetera. Not sure what it would get though as its main appearance was for airshows so im not even sure if its combat capable.
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Did it not just have AMRAAM?
It’s likely combat capable, as most testbeds came from fully functioning prototypes (like the first testbed for Su-27’s with TVC). But I doubt the OVT was intended for production, if it’s anything like the Su-27UB-PS. Not sure of the OVT, but the Su-27UB-PS only had one flat nozzle TVC engine, the other was a standard AL-31F, and the cowling over the engine was entirely ungodly in dimensions and clearly never intended for combat.
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That one sounds useless TVC only on one engine (in game)
The OVT was the testbed for the Mig-29M so it was initially going to use the TVC until the financial troubles particularly put that to bed. Plus intended for production has never really been a limit, particularly for Russian/Soviet vehicles.
I’m not an expert on Russian/Soviet aircraft but here are the OVT’s engines with TVC.
And yes I suspect it would be combat capable, I can see them giving the OVT all the systems of the Mig-29M as it tested them, or they give the 29M the OVT’s TVC as it could have had those engines (if Russia could’ve afforded it).
They’ll bend rules for Russia.
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Looks at Yak-141
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My thoughts exactly. Hence:
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Dear lord I hate it.
They flew it my god
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Guess why I’ve never suggested it XD
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I feel like doing it for the fun of having something so cursed in-game.
Appreciate the info. I’m a huge Flanker fan, can’t say I’m a big MiG-29 dude. They typically used different OKB’s for designs, so Klimov is less familiar. Lyulka/Saturn NPO is more what I’m aware of, and even then I don’t dig into the minutia of the different subseries of engines, just the changes in thrust etc.
They’ll bend the rules for any nation that may provide them a worth return on investment.
That being said, the Fulcrum airframe is running out of relevant variants that they can add to the game that will be competitive with other tactical fighters.
It’s yet one of another “rock and a hard places” that the Russian tree/Gaijin find themselves in. One being the gap between the early 90’s and the early 2000’s where not a lot exists in high production volumes (more complaints of bias etc.), and 2. once production ramps up you get mostly large frame (Flanker) planes with very nice PESA’s radars, a shitton of pylons, and supermaneuverability soon after.
People are going to be mad when another Flanker gets added while the US only has some other odd F-16 block 69+++^2 or whatever that still only has a limited A2A capability, but that is where we will find ourselves without a few odd Fulcrums to add to the mix.
Su-27 Flight computer was fine. The data provided helped with integrating the AL-41’s and was quite helpful for the Su-37 and Su-47 in developing the tech that would find itself on the Su-30SM and Su-35 initially.
Nah, I’ve a new M2K pending and a new german SAM suggestion in the works atm.
Funny enough, the new Su-57S is supposed to have the Izdeliye-30 (AL-51) which will be TVC, but also flat coned, for better stealth characteristics. I can’t wait to see if it’s that gaudy or not.
Wouldn’t mid seeing a TVC mig29 down the line would be cool
Everyone keeps talking about the most modern vehicles there are.
Meanwhile i’m advocating for some Japanese, Italian and French super-prop, and strike planes.
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Honestly I know little to nothing about Russian aircraft other than like entry level stuff i’m not well versed in the design beauro’s etc. But I’m glad to be of use.
Facts.
Yep but I agree I think the Mig-29M/OVT would be the next logical step for Russia, particularly as if Gaijin did want to introduce things like the R27EA against the AMRAAM (despite that being woefully unbalanced vs the A&B) the Fulcrum would be much more limited numerically in terms of armament.
I don’t worry too much about Flanker supermaneuverability unless its stall fighting.
The only other option to the Fulcrum-M would be a limited Flanker which I just cannot imagine Gaijin doing.
Like, Italy still has so many option to get. Almost 150 new aircraft could be added to italy that were made and developed by italy.
some brands:
Spoiler
- Savoia-Marchetti
- SIAI-Marchetti
- Reggiane
- Piaggio
- Macchi
- IMAM
- Fiat
- Caproni
- CANT
- Breda
- Aermacchi
- Aefer-Aermacchi
- Ambrosini
- Aeronautica Umbra
- Alenia Aermacchi
- Aeritalia
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I’d like the MK.21E or the Mk.23 (my beloved) spitfire’s too as the final elliptical spitfires and the only Mk.20 spitfires with elliptical and razor sharp wings.
I’m not sure France actually has any super-props the same for Italy but if they do I’d like to see those.
I’d also like to see some of Britain’s meta aircraft get added such as the Gnat, Type 545, Sea Vixen FAW.1 etcetera.
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