Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

[SlowHandClap]

@gromvoiny

Dunno why I have to spell it out, but I obviously am talking only about width of the tree, not its length.

We knew you were talking about width not length, genius. I was saying that it is a ridiculous excuse. “Dunno why I had to spell that out”.

@gromvoiny

And yes, we think that having to scroll in 2 directions would be a major nuisance for thousands of players.

All the major problems that exist in this game, and all the features which exist explicitly to be a nuisance to the players to push them into paying2progress, but you think having an additional scrolling direction would be too much of an inconvenience? OK dear.

You didn’t even need to make up an excuse - just say that for now you’ve decided to keep research trees to five lines for progression/gameplay reasons…There, I just did your job for you :)

[Mahiwew]

None of the posted pictures are AMV hulls though, so I think it’s just new pictures of a vehicle we’ve already seen

[krikrisup]

Its CTWV and it is based off of the type 16 MCV hull. And if I am not mistaken the photos are 6+ months old

[Blitzkrieg877]

@Motherhen357

I don’t think the MiG-29SMT will ever receive improvements to it 's a2a weapons

How come? Eventually it’ll get the R-74M and R-77-1. It’s the most modern MiG-29.

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@EpicBlitzkrieg87

It’s the most modern MiG-29.

It’s the most modern MiG-29 in game, but I don’t think it will be the last. 29M or MiG-35 are likely.

[oom1992]

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@Motherhen357

I don’t think the MiG-29SMT will ever receive improvements to it 's a2a weapons, it 's the worst of the Fulcrum variants which can employ guided a2g armaments and as such is very likely to be forcibly retained at it 's current BR in order to form lineups in Ground.

The SMT getting a targeting pod would be nice.

Yeah, you right

I hope gaijin not lazy and add 3rd generation targeting pod on MiG-29SMT (9-19) first major update or second major update this year

@EpicBlitzkrieg87

@Motherhen357

I don’t think the MiG-29SMT will ever receive improvements to it 's a2a weapons

How come? Eventually it’ll get the R-74M and R-77-1. It’s the most modern MiG-29.

MiG-29SMT expand to 13.0 BR after add IR R-74 and BVR MRAAM R-77-1 replace R-27ER/R-27ET

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@oom1992

MiG-29SMT expand to 13.0 BR after add IR R-74 and BVR MRAAM R-77-1 replace R-27ER/R-27ET

I can’t see this happening tbh. They love copy and pasting the same jet with different weapons to lengthen the grind. Better missiles will come with the Mig-29M most likely.

[SavagePilot_NATO]

something like this never happened before, so very unlikely

[Legwolf]

So how likely do we think it is, that 90% of Gaijins data they gathered on the Roadmap was “BR decompression” and people asking for the BRs to goto 15.0+?

[Armen_Lozone]

as a genuine suggestion, why employ something like WOT where the TT is only horizontal but encompasses a lot more lines?
simply put, the width of the vehicles display in the TT can be decreased to accomodate more lines or just shift to a horizontal TT version

[Blitzkrieg877]

@SlowHandClap

It’s the most modern MiG-29 in game, but I don’t think it will be the last. 29M or MiG-35 are likely.

I forgot about the MiG-35, but for good reason: it’s not in mass production because it’s development program is scuffed.

@SlowHandClap

I can’t see this happening tbh. They love copy and pasting the same jet with different weapons to lengthen the grind. Better missiles will come with the Mig-29M most likely.

I can’t see this outcome. The MiG-29M did not proceed past the prototype stage so historically did not see the light of better missiles.

[oom1992]

After armed IR R-74M & BVR MRAAM R-77-1 replace R-27ER/R-27ET on MiG-29SMT (9-19) would be 13.0 or 13.3 BR ?

[Blitzkrieg877]

If it was up to me I’d place top tier jets at 14.0

[Legwolf]

I’m hoping (coping) that we see a jump tp 15.0, and a decrease of max uptier from 1.0 to 0.3±

[oom1992]

I guess first major update or second major update gaijin expand to 12.7 BR and 13.0 BR for aviation toptier but none decompress BR to 14.0 in 2 years

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@Legwolf

So how likely do we think it is, that 90% of Gaijins data they gathered on the Roadmap was “BR decompression” and people asking for the BRs to goto 15.0+?

You’d have more chance of winning the lottery than GJN actually decompressing the game. Compression is a feature to encourage pay2progress.

@Armen_Lozone

as a genuine suggestion, why employ something like WOT where the TT is only horizontal but encompasses a lot more lines?
simply put, the width of the vehicles display in the TT can be decreased to accomodate more lines or just shift to a horizontal TT version

You’re asking for logic where there is none, unfortunately.

@EpicBlitzkrieg87

I forgot about the MiG-35, but for good reason: it’s not in mass production because it’s development program is scuffed.

Yeah but we know that won’t stop GJN lol.

@EpicBlitzkrieg87

The MiG-29M did not proceed past the prototype stage so historically did not see the light of better missiles.

Neither did the Yak-141.

[Michael-IR]

@SlowHandClap

You’d have more chance of winning the lottery than GJN actually decompressing the game. Compression is a feature to encourage pay2progress.

So true

[UnHolySausage]

It’s not a patria it’s based on the type 16 and the current name of it it’s common tactical wheeled vehicle since as of rn it’s in a prototype phase, but the hull is Made in japan, also it’s supossed to be a replacement of the type 87 RCV
Patria hull:

Type 16 Hull:

[Mahiwew]

@UnHolySausage

Patria hull:

Patria is the company, AMV is the vehicle.

[PestoMystic]

@soviet_MoonMan

The only thaing that might hold it back is it’s lack of thermals for the targeting pod, and it’s inability to fully look in a 180 sphere like external pods

@AUSChalkWarrior

lack of thermal pod is a pretty critical disadvantage IMO

If the Su-34 can equip the damocles pod, which I think it can, then the Su-34 should be okay. SAPSAN and SAPSAN-E are both fraudulent products, advertised at expos, but never actually produced. If gaijin wants to pull a Yak-141 on the pod then that could work, but I don’t think it matters. With the inclusion of the Kharg pod, assuming it actually is a true thermal, it really wont matter what they call it, but rather what the model looks like in game.

If Gaijin wants to get technical, they can justify any of the above pods and model and skin them how they like.

Along the way to the Su-34, and almost equally potent, will be the Su-30M which is basically a second generation Su-27 with multirole capabilities. In spite of it’s name, it should be a true multirole, and should basically be a better MiG-29SMT. Su-30M filled the role the 29SMT was intended for because it’s just better. Chinese will have a rough equivalent, with a possibly better radar, and a little more mobility with the Su-30MKK. I’m kind of inclined to say this should be a premium, or that there should be a premium version of it.