Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

according to Gaijin, yea… somehow…

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Fair take, though I thing that things from nations that are quite obviously attached to something else can be added, especially when no tree is available.
Pulqui II for Germany as an example

Is that in the book? I know they were looking for an F-4 replacement, but was this part of that?

Agreed, Gaijin has unfortunately opened up many “Pandora’s boxes” throughout the past, but at this point it’s clear that, as much as they might try to suggest there’s some logic or some certain criteria that should be met before adding a vehicle, it’s clear that ultimately they will add whatever they want to, and find the justification later.

The F-16AJ was bad, but it wasn’t as bad as the helicopters they gave to Sweden, or the mistakes they were making when the game wasn’t going to progress beyond the Korean War, by adding purely experimental or paper vehicles. The F-16AJ was another terrible addition, mainly because this along with the Swedish choppers and British T-90 have meant that basically now, people can wishlist for whatever they want with the flimsiest of reasons.

That being said, I’ve always been a proponent of there being gaps in tech trees if there were gaps in real life, so I won’t ever support adding vehicles without clear and meaningful connections and to the nation in which they’re being added.

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I mean is it even a question at this point? Tornado F.3 is obviously on par with F-16 so why ICE would be different?

It says it before the photo of the su20

I thing some Mod even (confirmed) a new german fighter for 2024 will search it however…
Edit: Found It

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So, that seems to confirm what I was initially saying, that it was part of a research program or the general familiriazation NATO countries have with each other’s aircraft, in this case to look to other types to see what can be learned for future aircraft design.

F4 ICE and suffer

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But the F20 they were seeing if they should get it it not really clear if those were just looking at cockpit and i don’t think you to test fly a plane to know the cockpit lay out

So I think we can agree that the source is actually not very good, at least for what we’re trying to establish here.

why is it not good? lmao
you decide it isnt or what?

The thing is you actually do. JA37Di version of the Viggen (for example) existed for this exact reason. It featured english cockpit specifically for interoperability with NATO.

Cause it sort of vague if the F/A18 testing was to see how it worked verse buying it
one page is says the testing was to look at the cockpit the other says the F20 wasn’t fit for the Luftwaffe its not concrete

Because it doesn’t help answer the question being posed.

I’m not saying it’s not a good source overall, just saying that it doesn’t seem to help when it comes to establishing why the Germans tested the F/A-18, as in one part it mentions that it’s done to learn from its cockpit layout, whereas in another it mentions it was part of the F-20 testing which was not satisfactory for the Luftwaffe, without clarifying what the Luftwaffe was doing testing it.

and these parts are sandwich between the Su20 the tested

Haha yeah, that’s why I hadn’t even read it, I assumed they wouldn’t be mentioning it before the Su-20.

I don’t see the point in arguing about the german tested planes. Gaijin does whatever gaijin thinks is right. In the end they add the MBB Lampyridae and break their rules again just because they can

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F15 F16 F18 F20 were tested by the Luftwaffe WTF61 unit to evaluate and test US combat aircraft, that is already explained in the picture i posted and where i pinged you

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The Question is why were they doing that