the Su-27SM ingame has the N001VEP the same radar that the SM3 uses
and overall the same avionics as it
the only difference between the Su-27SM ingame and the Su-27SM3 is that the SM3 gets 2 extra pylons
Additional pylons and it’s slightly heavier, access to better ECM pods when the time comes, etc.
If gaijin wanted they could give it KAB-500S and Kh-59M since it did use them in tests.
the Su-27SM ingame has the N001VEP the same radar that the SM3 uses
and overall the same avionics as it
The WCS was specifically modified between SM to SM3 to allow use of R-77-1, SM cannot use R-77-1.
what i meant is they change the name from SU-27SM to SU-27SM3 give it R77-1 and move it to 14.0-14.3
which yes is probably a stupid idea
why tho, what the reason
because the Su-27SM uses the same fire controll system with the N001VEP as the SM3
Personally I’d just prefer being able to use both, even if one is copy paste, but that’s nothing new these days.
why tho, what the reason
I just gave it to you.
because the Su-27SM uses the same fire control system with the N001VEP as the SM3
The radar is not the entire fire control system. There’s code that needs to be edited or added to integrate weaponry properly. It’s why F-35’s integration of Meteor has been taking ages.
As mentioned above, N001VEP’s WCS needed changes to utilize R-77-1, Su-27SM lacks said changes while Su-27SM3 has them.
a software update
so how can you be sure that no Su-27SM ever recived that update, especially since its litterally the same radar as the SM3 and thus uses the same code
ontop of that its not like the r-77 and r-77-1 are vastly different missiles in their design
if they do add the sm3 it should be a folder vehicle with the sm
just like how the mig 29 9-13 and the 9-15 should be foldered and the su30sm and sm2 should be foldered
but foldering stuff would make the grind too easy
we cant have that, can we?
Then take some APCR shells. Those have enough penetration and the front of the Tiger II earlies turret is flat enough to not cause shattering.
I swear its very rewarding seeing Tiger players fume about getting frontally penned by a US 75 because literally everyone and their mother keep forgetting APCR is a thing and is excellent at dealing with Tiger flat plates.
so how can you be sure that no Su-27SM ever recived that update, especially since its litterally the same radar as the SM3 and thus uses the same code
Because Su-27SM3s were made from Su-27SMs and other stockpiled airframes? Why would they apply one upgrade from SM3 without just making it a full SM3… Anyways, if you wanna go into “What if’s” be my guest but I won’t entertain them.
ontop of that its not like the r-77 and r-77-1 are vastly different missiles in their design
They are rather different however… Different motor, different guidance section, different seeker… for my tastes, that’s pretty different missile compared to R-77.
And about the top part, just because Su-27SM3 was planned to be equipped with R-37M, R-74M, Kh-59M and KAB-500S, does not mean Su-27SM would be capable of using said weapons if SM3 got them.
lol, is the spyder the worst vehicle ingame by player ratings? yea continue to ignore the bug reports gaijin, add 2 more spaa’s to russia
Played the swiss mirage. Trees need more mirages.
Greek sub tree is going to have a small positive edge I suppose
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the grind is way to difficult as it is
oh you just spent 2 days grinding a typhoon with a mechanical radar for 400k rp
spend another 2 days grinding another typhoon with an aesa radar and spice bomb for another 400k rp
I’d love for more modernized Mirages.
MF2000, ROSE IV, 50EV, and whatever else would be cool.
what i want is a mirage 4000 with micas even though it may not be completely realistic it did have the technical capability
Any source to back that up? Not that we can’t trust a random drawing, but we actually can’t
Yeah so why would they upgrade the N001VE to the N001VEP, if they could have just turned it into a Sm3
N001VEP page mentions RVV-SD for an modernization update later on, im assuming the SM3 only got those as part of the SM3 upgrade package since that is what has been reported most times
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not that i can find but the mica development started in 1982 and the mirage 4000 last flew in 1988 and it was designed with the capability to carry the mica but never went to mass production therefore didnt use them and it apparently would have been able to take 14