Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

Nothing can be added without a proof

That means nothing. The Mirage 4000 was designed and built in the late 70s, so before 1982, and it’s not at all obvious that it was integrated afterwards. So…

…You’re gonna have to prove that statement because it does NOT go by itself

yeah im aware of that

the project started in 1979 and ended in 1988 the mica development started in 1982 and begun first trials in 1991 i dont have a source but i do know that the mirage 4000 was built with intent to carry both the MICA-EM and MICA-IR but because the project was to costly and the other potential buyers was the middle east the project didnt go ahead

the mirage 4000 had technical capability i can try find a source but it never used the missile, on the other hand if it did go into service with the french airforce it would almost 100% carry micas specifically about 12 of them on all the magic 2 pylons plus 4 underbelly ones

No i do not have a source but i can try go find something for you if needed im just going off what i remember

Not only that, Magic-less Mirage 3C early lots or 3A.

I want to do starfighter style hit and run at 9.3
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They won’t have Sidewinders apparently (Unless we get a mid life 3C) but there are always AFK orbiters around that BR range so R530 will have a field day

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Well yes, that’s pretty obvious. But that’s a different matter to the technical compatibility with the prototype.

How do you know it then, if you don’t have any source to give?

Btw I don’t know that all very well but afaik the RDM and RDI are not compatible with MICA-EM, so that’s that off the list.
MICA-IR I could see that, but that was built later than the EM right? So…

i read it somewhere a while ago but i cant find it

mica ir started development around the same time maybe a couple years later

There should be an appropriate Mirage F1 to put around 11.x such that useless Super 530 would still be useless but the vehcile will come in early 1980s configuration

I hate labeling vehicles early and late, so I will search for a good named variant

I relate to this so much

i swear i find great sources for things save them for another time then they dissapear off the face off the earth

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Imo they should lower the F1C to 11.3 with Magic 1 and keep the F1CT at 12.0. I mean, atm the C and CT are really similar so it would make sense no?
Or, they could just add another variant and arbitrarily give it Magic 1 at 11.3 to fill that gap. Like, idk, a B or CR or something?

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CR is ideal. It still retains fighting ordnance options I suppose.

But just like all French vehicles at ranks VI to VIII, nobody mains radar missiles so better have F-8P with two Magic 2s at 11.3

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Yup! The B loses its internal guns but you still have access to the gun pods which are super light, so it also works I guess

F-8P would be really nice as well (if it gets countermeasures, otherwise unplayable). But that wouldn’t stop me from playing a 11.3 F1 with magics

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So…how much longer until the B-52 can use its tail gunner without having to use first person camera?

It was qualified on Mirage 2000s and Rafales but nothing is mentioned about Mirage 4000 being qualified for it but I’m sure if they wanted to back then they could have, but it was never done.

that doesnt include the mirage 4000 because the mirage 4000 project was cancelled in 1988 which is before this was made, if it were to have gone forward it would have most likely gone into service with mica em and mica ir

I don’t disagree that it would most likely have gone into service with it if it survived long enough, but people read your statement and believe that you’re saying it had capability for MICA before its cancellation, so probably miscommunication there.

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probably, but i do believe the mirage 4000 was built with mica integration planned as the development of both started only a few years apart i would guess they had the idea in mind it just never went ahead

which is a shame because man it is the best jet the french have built
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I would disagree, its airframe was an F-15 counterpart made several years later and doesn’t incorporate better technologies than the F-15 of its time. But it does show people that France had the capability to build an F-15 counterpart all along. The Rafale was the one to make leaps of its time though and incorporate technologies/design choices into its airframe that other aircraft of its time did not.

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im pretty sure the us was scared of the mirage 4000s capabilities BUT i was talking about looks

i mean its like the best looking jet
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i was playing france with panther dauphine cause i got a discount and i lowkey have 2.8 kd ratio now in it just goes to show how much german teams hold you back

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why the missiles red are they dummies ?

also mirage IIIC in my opinion looks better 4000 has nothing on the original
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