Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

[Smin1080p_WT]

@TFS_64Mustang

This is very frustrating to read. While I understand it looks like “just play the game bro”, it is quite literally ALL we have to go off of…

Correct me if I am wrong here, but bug reports are just that, reporting a bug. Sometimes we can’t provide an exact list of how to recreate something, we just don’t know what causes it. The most we can do is list out as much info we can, provide literal proof of in game footage, and hope the devs can figure it out. I understand the logs is something I should have added and didn’t think about, but saying a report just “says play the game” is such a frustrating thing for me personally.

Hey. It seems you misunderstood.

To clarify, I was answering the user above who claimed:

@Smin1080p_WT

all we can say is you have to play the game (sim) lol if you want to experience it.

I was explaining to them the importance of why steps to reproduce (even at a basic level) are important. And also why saying “just play the game”, is not helpful for those who need to test and replicate the bug to be able to pass it to the devs

You included the steps in your report, which I reformatted to use as the example I provided:

@Smin1080p_WT

For example:

Steps to reproduce:

1. Play an air sim battle,
2. Use a 14.3 plane, specifically any variant of the RAFALE or Eurofighter
3. Wait until a player fires a ARH missile or locks onto you with a radar that doesn’t provide a RWR return.

This is all thats required generally. Nobody claimed your report (the second one) did not inlcude steps to reproduce.

The report has been forwarded.

[StormRyder13]

I’d love the LAV family. Even more so the UK getting getting some do to how many Commonwealth nation used them(at it being domestic to one of them), major ones at that.

The earlier LAVs might not be the greatest (I still want them) but the LAV-6 MK II is looking at have missiles so should be ok.

[TFS_64Mustang]

Understood, appreciate the response.

[Morvran]

How aware are the devs regarding the current state of 9Ms?

My report for front aspect IRCCM got accepted and of course all of Flame’s reports (still dont know why they havent been actioned) but this report still needs forwarding:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/bT0XeTXyaQ3X

but the IRCCM appears to have stopped working in rear-aspect too now since the last major update. Is a report needed or is this a known issue? (and would it require docs to report?)

Exmaples:

Spoiler

https://youtu.be/BRxOGro8yZQ
Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 2) - #7253 by Sean74218

[Sean74218]

Game is definitely ready for next gen missiles

[joshje100]

You see there’s 2 types of IRCCM in this game.

One type does it’s best to counter flares by shutting off its seeker or narrowing its FOV so it doesn’t see the flare.

And the other type specifically takes out flares like an SPAA countering aircraft or A-G weapons.

[YaSen]

Would be nice, especially since it’s featuring Italian domestic recoilless rifle Folgore.
R3 with Folgore would be also cool)

[XSpaz1NOuTX-psn]

And AIM-120s even though it was an ahistorical nerf to air launched 120s…

And its funny that pilots were told to fire 120s in close range over 9Ms but here we are

[AblativeKitten]

Would make a pretty decent 9.3 like the VBCI, although would be 200 RPM. IIRC the VBCI is more?

[Morvran]

Yep, but 120 buffs im doubting will ever happen

[XSpaz1NOuTX-psn]

I honestly wouldnt care for the AOA nerf atp if they fix the seeker, its chaff rejection or lack thereof is egregious

[Morvran]

Yep, its rather dumb how trivial they are too defeat

[XSpaz1NOuTX-psn]

Then theres the R-77-1 thats practically impossible to get away from

[Morvran]

Eh… ive not had too much of an issue, at least at anything beyond WVR, but the asymmetry in that regard is annyoing, given they have ARH and IR missiels that work in WVR and we barely have either

[Danzig_A11]

The solution is quite shrimple really, Be French. Or that one Chinese transfer student…then your really well optimized for WVR

[_Sakiko_Togawa]

@Smin1080p_WT

The J-10C has the correct engine for its current model. Which is that of the early J-10C batches. As we said, the model needs to be changed to incorporate a later engine. Which is not a quick change.

Why does the J-10C, a light aircraft, have greater drag than the Su-30SM2?

[Flame2512]

@Master_Teaz

i don’t really see it offering much apart from maybe AIM-9M / ASRAAM

Plus HMD and better engines

[Macron-Spokesman]

@Morvran

Yep, but 120 buffs im doubting will ever happen

Well they recently asked for the whole document on the AIM-120s so maybe they’ll finally do something.

https://community.gaijin.net/p/warthunder/i/FTINp3ILB1Ls?comment=ndKbZ6LLZUYmEU1FQR2uJujv

Although it is a little weird why they’d ask for the whole document rather than just implementing the report.

[DevilO6]

@DirectSupport

Although it is a little weird why they’d ask for the whole document rather than just implementing the report.

They tend to do that if they belive your source.

[Master_Teaz]

@Flame2512

Plus HMD and better engines

HMD is certainly something, but slightly better engines means nearly nothing for it, the whole Jaguar airframe is rather poor