There might not even be relevant documents lol
Yup, it’s why I brought up the MiG 1.44/1.42 as well, while the 1.44 wasn’t armed, the 1.42 would have been equipped with weapons, a radar, rwr, countermeasures, etc, but that suggestion was deleted shortly after it was approved by a suggestion mod
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not really, its the same context
they passed a British tank for germany and another much weaker tank from the same company for Britain
and you said its because theres no need to pass similar vehicles in the same month
but at the same time the Air department passed literally IDENTICAL Vehicle pairs 3 and 2 Nations in the same Passed to devs
there’s not really a good way to talk this out in a Diplomatic manner, this is literally 2 diffrent measuring sticks for the same exact problem
and you even told us the same reason why we dont understand it, its an Iconic tank but the suggestion for it wasn’t passed to the nation that uses it but for the nation that is the origin for a now International defence corporation
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Kikka is an unfinished prototype.
Su-47 is weird because the argument isn’t that future Su-47s were meant to be armed, but instead it’s that “Su-47 could have been armed, it had provisions”, which would also apply to the denied EAP.
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I mean gaijin did call the Challengers niche in the T90 blog iirc lol
“Britain’s top-tier MBTs are generally niche and are typically geared towards methodical combat engagements.”
and the german Jump jets, and many other similar prototypes that got denied because IRL they were never armed, even tho they were intended to be armed from the start
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Im glad that we have a higher possibility of an actual CR3 now.
I do think that for clarity sakes that the 130mm challenger should be marked as “Britain & Germany” to not have this confusion happen again. Just have both suggestions linked as one pass to devs, its the same vehicle after all
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EWR VJ 101 and VFW Fokker VAK 191
If only…
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130mm challenger is the tank British top tier needs to fight 2A7V and Strv 123
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I meant denied as in the suggestion.
Gaijin denied a lot of things before that still fit suggestion rules (unfinished prototypes like F-111K or O-I) or things that would be added later as the game progressed like more modern vehicles, infantry, etc.
If there was plans for armed VAK191 for example I think at least a suggestion would go through.
im also quite sad Lampyrdae never left the early design phase
those Jumpers were literally ready for arming and going into production
they were at the same step in their development the Eurofighter was at in 1999
not really, more so that germany could have a leo hull 130mm, america can have a 130mm abrams, russia already has obj 292. Each tree ought to have an equal to each other in one way or the other
and Britain could have a chally
Reject CR3
Embrace CR2 Street Fighter II
One is a hugely iconic aircraft known the world over. The other is an obscure prototype / demonstrator most people that are not more dedicated fans would know about. So no, they do not compare at all.
The “much weaker tank” is Britain’s current upcoming main battle tank that will be in operational service.
There is no need to “talk this out”. Its a meaningless matter.
The British suggestion for the Challenger 2 130mm doesn’t need to be passed for its existence to be known. You are acting as though no further research or investigation is done outside of exactly what the suggestion topic contained or exactly who it was suggested for with no other context.
The F-35s are a hugely iconic are far more widely known matter in terms of suggestion and demand.
Its really nothing much to get so significantly worked up about really.
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Reject tonk, embrace Brimstone III
Reject tonk, embrace Panzervernichtungstrupp
we have the challenger 3 + epsom ERA/NERA so theres chances of that.
the 130mms are really just a meme tank.
EAP wasn’t a government contracted prototype, it was a private test of avionics systems, using the rather horrific engines from the Tornadoes. Yes, I personally love the Tornado’s engines, but they are very thristy engines.
Whereas Su-47 started in 1983 under government contract… it didn’t stay that way for reasons we can’t discuss here, but the context is different.
Wait… EAP can only carry 4 tons of fuel? That’s 5 minutes of fuel on full afterburner. lol Horrific.
It doesn’t really matter what the nation suggested was in whatever topic passed. It would be down to the devs to decide on any vehicle on a case by case basis regardless. So its a bit of a moot point and a strange one for some people here to be getting so worked up about. Its not a popularity contest.
to us the players which have no insight in the Secret acting of Gaijin it very much looks like this, which is why I and many others expect it to be like this
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