Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

Sea Harriers won against Mirage IRL so why not also against MiG-23s?

Surely will be an part of the December Patch allready
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/43bbUb1LEVpS

they Used to be Awesome

back when they were introduced and R-60M were the Nonplus Ultra Flare Ignoring Supermissile that would Dominate the rank

Sure, there’s always a chance, but the MiG-23 will win in 90% of cases.

it has flares

IRL? no

in game? maybw

Hey that’s given me the thought, the MiG-25 might actually be pretty good for chasing down those AI targets that go Mach 6 which the devs refuse to fix.

IRL: Yes?

yes that’s it’s strength!

definetly nothing that can’t already be done by any other jet

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R-24R’s are almost always 2 guranteed kills, at least from my experience with the ML, I never fire those past 10km because the radar loses track so easily and has a tall unprecise scan box to re-target.

That said, sub 10km they can utilise IOG pretty well I’d say, they do a pretty good job at still hitting the target.

I only never fire those against more maneuverable jets, since those can make them bleed so much speed just by turning.

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how high do they fly?

Again, give me 1 reason why the Mig-23MLD should be 11.7 and not 12.0.

Well you say that… Sea Harrier beat the F-5E in 1v1 combat at a ratio of 7:1 and the F-15A in 2v2 combat at a ratio of 3:1

So If we had IRL performance harriers… Mig-23 would probably actually be toast. But we dont.

It doesnt matter if we are talking about ARB or ASB. There is no reason for a Mach 3 capable aircraft with R-60Ms and potentailly quite powerful SARH should be below 12.0. Especially given the state of multiple 12.0 aircraft at the moment. If the only valid excuse is “it would be unfair vs 13.0s”, then every. single. 12.0 aircraft, needs to be at 11.7

Once again, i’d be more worried about the mach 3 irst launching giant long range fox 2s.

Any leaks that have been proven yet ???

Kinda, but only quesses

It actually can’t though that’s the thing. These AI recon planes / bombers can cross the map in like 2 minutes flat out running literally everything. Hell once they start you can’t even get a proper lock on them with how fast they travel your missiles and radar can’t track anything that fast.

Yeah, seems like I just don’t use em right

I’m too used to the Skyflashes, so I guess I must be launching the R-24Rs way too early

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quite a few actually

no only Proven Guesses

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do we have the guess list ?