Read what I wrote again and show me where I said they were weak.
Hmm… Ive had issues flaring them in things like the Phantom before, even with throttling down.
I’ve had them go for launched missiles over afterburning targets many times, and I don’t carry them in the Mig-23 for that reason.
Bro I tried spading the phantom fgr 2 and that is the most abysmal thing I’ve ever played
2.5g actually for R40r/t and up to 8g for the R40rd/td.
They love to go for the first flares they see and often cannot decide what target to actually follow due to their huge seeker FoV
At least that’s my experience as the one using them
The R60M is worse in every aspect than the AIM-9L, the R24T is good, yes you won’t be able to run because you’re in a subsonic plane, take a Phantom FGR 2 and go after the MiG-23, why do you think a Sea Harrier should beat a MiG-23?
IIRC the FOV is quite small, so you need to flare earlier rather than later. As it gets exponentially harder the closer the missile is.
these 50% sale made me quite 10.0 to 12.7
Yep, thats been my finding.
Fired late, maybe using IRST to get close in SB. There is little you can do against them if you spot them late or the situation is unfavourable for flaring them.
I’ve had one swap to a teammate in an AMX that was flying about 5km behind an F-4 with it’s afterburners going. I feel that AIM-9B’s get flared less than R-24T’s.
Because they are at the SAME BR in ASB.
Both are 11.3.
Though your argument is that the Mig-25 CANNOT be any higher than 11.7 because it would be unfair in an uptier against 13.0s and maybe even 12.7s forcing it to be more like 11.3.
My argument is that 10.3s and 10.7s, let alone maybe also 11.0s vs the Mig-25 would be just as unfair.
You cannot use the argument of “uptiers would be too hard” to justify sealclubbing in downtiers.
They should go straight for a second or two then start tracking. It should function kinda like the R23r, but with far more acceleration.
Eh, if you get jumped by them flare and pull hard, they have poor all aspect. Basically treat it like an R-24R but drop flares instead of Chaff
Thats what Ive tried. My defeat chance has not been totally consistant.
Ive had more than a few times its ignored flares entirely for some reason.
and don’t be scared of the Merge, MiG-25 can’t fight you in close quarters and it couldn’t outturn a Starfighter if it had to
Should be fairly vulnerable to IR missiles as well since thrust is massive on that aircraft.
So we solved the problem, the BR is the problem and you were blaming the MiG-23 this whole time. Now let’s suppose a real-life combat where there is no BR. If a MiG-23 met you in a Sea Harrier, do you think a Sea Harrier would win? Probably not. So the problem is the BR, not the MiG-23.
And I wonder who will use a MiG-25 in simulated battles, the least of the problems would be seeing a MiG-25 in ASB.
If the R-24Ts weren’t so good for surprise launches at long range, I’d actually use R-13M1s on those rails
I usually don’t even bother with R-24Rs, never really getting good launches with those (maybe I just don’t use them right tho lol)

