Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

Mig25 will probably be fine at 11.7 at the absolute lowest. 12.0 sounds rather appropriate to me. 12.3 sounds kinda high considering the limited maneuverability and the fact that at 13.0 and 13.3 it will face fakour 90, aim54a/c and aim120a/b. It wont be that potent unless it gets placed at an absurd br like 9.3 or somn.

The sea casually rising by 1m the moment the ship is launched

TBF this is undertiered.

The Su-33 is if you count the other top 13.0s as undertiered too.

su27 is all better than the su33, 2 more missile wont change nothing except adding more weight

j11A is the strongest, its a su27sm at 13.3

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I thought I read something about the R-40TD having IRCCM?

If that is the case, then I think 12.3 with long ranged IR IRCCM missiles is about fair. Especially if it can actually fire at a decent range. It beats out 10.7 and 11.0 aircraft having to deal with it

And why would you be facing a MiG-23 without having SARS missiles? Just fly low and it won’t be able to shoot you down. Yes, the Su-33 is good, the Su-30MK2 is even better, but those who use them have no idea what they’re doing.

i would really apreciete gaijin to give the iran f14 6 fakours/aim54 rather than 4 and put it at 13.3

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They don’t afaik. They’re improved from the R40t in that its an all aspect seeker, since the R40t is rear aspect only afaik.

The Su-30MK2 is better because of it’s better RWR, and the J-11A is objectively worse than the su-27SM.

The players being braindead don’t make the plane not VERY powerfull though

So. Im in, again say a Sea Harrier with 2x Aim-9Ls?

I cannot use the 9Ls because the Mig-23MLD will 1 flare defeat.

I dont have SARH

I cannot run away

I cannot beat it in a dogfight unless the Mig-23 is stupid enough to slow down.

What do I do?

R-60Ms & R-24Ts dont exists? Also, MP can be mitigated very very easily.

Fair on that front then

you sure ? dont have but @kizvy can give his personel opinion as he play both of them after the br change

tbf, R-60M and R-24T are also incredibly easy to flare

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I think spo15 with mawsis better than l150 rwr for arb. Don’t pay attention to me lol
But yes IMO j11a is better than su30mk2. But they both should be 13.7

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they’ll be competitive among R3R and AiM-26B on Off the rail performance

the R-40 can only hit targets manoeuvring at up to 4G so you might be fine if you dodge at the right moment

I’m a bit bummed out that the MiG-25 is (likely) going to be the first soviet missile interceptor we get in-game. Would have loved to see the older ones first…

Su-9 and Su-11 (not the ones we have in-game)


su11-1

Su-15

Tu-128

Yak-28

Yak-28 02

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Unless you are in a Harrier. If you arent at max speed, 8+ flares at 3km in rear-aspect wont defeat an R-60M. You would need to throttle down to idle to defeat it. And even then… not always guaranteed.

R-24Ts seem to be fairly resistant to flares in my experience.

My experience is the opposite of that lol