Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

su27 is all better than the su33, 2 more missile wont change nothing except adding more weight

j11A is the strongest, its a su27sm at 13.3

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I thought I read something about the R-40TD having IRCCM?

If that is the case, then I think 12.3 with long ranged IR IRCCM missiles is about fair. Especially if it can actually fire at a decent range. It beats out 10.7 and 11.0 aircraft having to deal with it

And why would you be facing a MiG-23 without having SARS missiles? Just fly low and it won’t be able to shoot you down. Yes, the Su-33 is good, the Su-30MK2 is even better, but those who use them have no idea what they’re doing.

i would really apreciete gaijin to give the iran f14 6 fakours/aim54 rather than 4 and put it at 13.3

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They don’t afaik. They’re improved from the R40t in that its an all aspect seeker, since the R40t is rear aspect only afaik.

The Su-30MK2 is better because of it’s better RWR, and the J-11A is objectively worse than the su-27SM.

The players being braindead don’t make the plane not VERY powerfull though

So. Im in, again say a Sea Harrier with 2x Aim-9Ls?

I cannot use the 9Ls because the Mig-23MLD will 1 flare defeat.

I dont have SARH

I cannot run away

I cannot beat it in a dogfight unless the Mig-23 is stupid enough to slow down.

What do I do?

R-60Ms & R-24Ts dont exists? Also, MP can be mitigated very very easily.

Fair on that front then

you sure ? dont have but @kizvy can give his personel opinion as he play both of them after the br change

tbf, R-60M and R-24T are also incredibly easy to flare

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I think spo15 with mawsis better than l150 rwr for arb. Don’t pay attention to me lol
But yes IMO j11a is better than su30mk2. But they both should be 13.7

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they’ll be competitive among R3R and AiM-26B on Off the rail performance

the R-40 can only hit targets manoeuvring at up to 4G so you might be fine if you dodge at the right moment

I’m a bit bummed out that the MiG-25 is (likely) going to be the first soviet missile interceptor we get in-game. Would have loved to see the older ones first…

Su-9 and Su-11 (not the ones we have in-game)


su11-1

Su-15

Tu-128

Yak-28

Yak-28 02

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Unless you are in a Harrier. If you arent at max speed, 8+ flares at 3km in rear-aspect wont defeat an R-60M. You would need to throttle down to idle to defeat it. And even then… not always guaranteed.

R-24Ts seem to be fairly resistant to flares in my experience.

My experience is the opposite of that lol

Read what I wrote again and show me where I said they were weak.

i gotta love playing stock mig23 and face this hydrogen bomb

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Hmm… Ive had issues flaring them in things like the Phantom before, even with throttling down.