Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

Maybe it is one of another typical Gaijin moment?
Just like keeping Tonka on 11.7 because of mud-moving capability while letting MiG-23ML steal that glory.

If F-106 comes with 4x SARH, maybe Gaijin just thought that F-106 is a slight upgrade of F3H-2 Demon.
:/

Well, I see a lot of low level flying, and hiding in the ground clutter in our future. What is it with Gaijin giving the US a vehicle that forces everyone to fly on the ground

not with an early radar

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Joke reply: Killing bombers, which still are maintaining air spawn :P
normal reply: because Gaijin thinks it is cool. Well F-106 itself is a cool jet. isn’t it?

exactly…

The best defence will be hiding in ground clutter.

Where is ground clutter?

Its interesting… but easily 10.0 material alongside things like Mirage IIIC

I think it will probably go up but i honestly cant see it going higher than 9.7/10.0 unless gaijin is willing to give it the QF-106 CMs (and they already denied those so…)

as others have said its really just another case of the entire 9.0/10.0 BR bracket being a compressed mess than anything.

9.3? Oh yeah, its Dartin’ time!
darts all over red team

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also worth mentioning the MiG-21S is 9.7 with fairly good radar missiles for its BR range (if only people would stop using it to bomb bases)

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Like I said. Mirage IIIC is 10.0. That is probably fairly comprable airframe. 2x good IR and a usable SARH.

Flies worse (at some altitudes) than F-4, still has no flares, limited to 4 missiles, AND they require a direct hit. At 10.0 you might as well not add the thing.

Also I will hear no slander of Red Top. Gimped as they might be, I’ve killed many a Phantom from the front.

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Based upon teh datamine

R-3R pull 11G, meaning they can be kinematically defeated. Though I hate them at 9.7.

the Super Falcons are 27G, you probably arent going to be able to kinematically defeat them.

Nor will you be able to kinematically defeat the IR version like you can Red Tops and Aim-9Bs on the F-104 or Lightning F6.

The only negative seems to be the SARH Falcons dont have prox fuse

I honestly don’t think the falcons are gonna be anywhere near as good as the FALCO’s on the Mirage IIIS
they have no proximity fuse, so the falcons require a direct hit
and I believe their acceleration will be quite awful, just from browsing the forums so far
Maybe more comparable to the Matra R511 but as of right now, we know next to nothing about how gaijin has modelled them.
It’s too early to draw conclusions

And the Mirage IIIC with 3 missiles, no flares and an okay FM but not that great is fine becuase?

I’ve gotten a front aspect lock once, like 2 years ago. I dont think its possible since the re-work. Given they should be able to frontally lock a Buc S2 at 3km. Its very annoying.

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after looking at that, they are better than I expected.
Or at least appear so.
You’re gonna have to notch them too because they’re CW right…

Yeah, difficult to judge, but assuming this thing is at bare minimum as fast as Lightning F6 ish Its easily 9.7 material, but I think should be 10.0

Here’s a fun fact, I don’t believe the MIIIC belongs at 10.0 either :^)

I’ve gotten them as recently as 2 months ago. Haven’t played the Lightning since because I don’t like being suicidal.

But yes, the Dart should probably be 9.7 given that it is better than the F-104 (see dictionary entry for garbage for more info) and Lightning. 10.0 is too high unless Gaijin blesses us with AIM-97.

Would that even be useful lol

Yea maybe it should be 10.3, however its already completely screwed in uptiers with undodgeable all aspect missiles… Compression issue.
(It does absolutely STOMP everything in a downtier though)

That’s the problem we’re having. The 9.3-10.0 region is just so awkward. Some planes are unplayable in everything but a downtier and some are so good they should move up, but can’t due to the fact they’ll see all-aspect slingers every game.

the 8.3-13.0 region is awful
I’d say the worst compression is 9.0-11.0 as vehicles like the J35D and Mirage IIIC bully everything in a downtier but the moment its 10.3/10.7/11.0 they’re next to unplayable
facing the MiG-21bis in the J35D was extremely painful…
We can’t be moving things down with all this compression but the things that need to move up would be completely dead in the water.