Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

M8 you do realise the whole Harrier airframe was made by us Brits

" The Hawker P.1127 and the Hawker Siddeley Kestrel FGA.1 are the British experimental and development aircraft that led to the Hawker Siddeley Harrier, the first vertical and/or short take-off and landing (V/STOL) jet fighter-bomber."

Who the hell is Claiming Merkava for the UK?

M8 do you realize the av8b was a radical improvement on the original harrier, they are 2 different planes

@FlyingOstridge

And yet you claim the Grant and Firefly. Checkmate.

“improvement” one word immediately destroyed your argument

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I was making examples of why it’s bad reasoning, I don’t actually think the UK’s fireflies should go to US

It’s a new airframe, they changed almost everything, it’s like saying a mk1 spitfire is the same plane as a mk24

Harrier 2 was also a british design, which the yanks adopted. Not a domestic American design at all

AV-8B first fight 1981, BAE harrier 2 first flight 1985

It’s the same air frame hence it still called the spitfire which the said Harrier is still is, guess what still a harrier

The F-4 F ICE is more American than the AV-8B is british

Damn those British mains claiming every vehicle in game. If only Their empire wasn’t the largest the likes of which the world had never seen the likes of which.

" The AV-8B Harrier II was developed by McDonnell Douglas (later merged into Boeing) in collaboration with the British Aerospace (BAe) company.

The aircraft is an evolution of the earlier Hawker Siddeley Harrier, a British design. While the original Harrier was developed solely by Hawker Siddeley (which became part of BAe), the AV-8B was a joint effort to improve upon that design, incorporating significant upgrades:

  • McDonnell Douglas handled the redesign and production in the United States.
  • British Aerospace (BAe) contributed key elements of the design, leveraging their expertise from the original Harrier project.

The AV-8B Harrier II was primarily manufactured for the United States Marine Corps (USMC) and various allied nations."

Oopie looks like someone forgot a key detail

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built to british specs to be exported only to the British however got adopted into US service.

Literally British in its entire design, built in the US under licence

A worse Wessex

Designed as an export vehicle for the RAF, wasn’t intended for American service. most notable variants use the British rolls royce merlin engine built under licence by allison

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F-4
F-18 radar
American missiles
and bombs
and rockets

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its… the same plane

And also bro look at the wiki lmao

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The McDonnell Douglas (now Boeing) AV-8B Harrier II is a single-engine ground-attack aircraft that constitutes the second generation of the Harrier family, capable of vertical or short takeoff and landing (V/STOL). The aircraft is primarily employed on light attack or multi-role missions, ranging from close air support of ground troops to armed reconnaissance. The AV-8B is used by the United States Marine Corps (USMC), the Spanish Navy, and the Italian Navy. A variant of the AV-8B, the British Aerospace Harrier II, was developed for the British military, while another, the TAV-8B, is a dedicated two-seat trainer.

The project that eventually led to the AV-8B’s creation started in the early 1970s as a cooperative effort between the United States and United Kingdom

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The UK dropped out of the original improved harrier program 1975, and then US dropped out of it too. but McDonnell Douglas continues with another redesign in 1976 bc there was still a want from the USMC, they make the YAV-8B with new intake, exhaust, and wings. After seeing how it was actually going somewhat well, UK rejoined the project in 1981, which granted did help it, but it was originally an American redesign

I did look, you left out some important parts

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