No, since it was never combat capable, nor ever intended to be. It’s another EAP.
this is all opinion, and you haven’t once complained about a gap in current US aircraft, because of the way they were added it never felt like a gap, and the current gaps are non-issues as they are only single BR gaps in an otherwise full and varied tree, a single BR gap is not a concern
And if we get to take multiple lines into account then I’m sure the F-16C (AN/APG-83), F-15C (AN/APG63(v)2), and F-15E (AN/APG-82), not to mention the F/A-18s could all be made to stretch the gap up until the addition of the F-15EX, I mean there is nothing so inherently amazing about the EX that couldn’t be balanced by its armament anyway.
Also, I do agree with this, more Gulf War aircraft would be nice, same with the F/A-18, though the way to do it is to folder the two F-111s and then put the F-15E (early) in the tech tree before the F-15E we have now
maybe something to do later instead though
if they add the EX, they will probably add it with AIM-260 since thats going to be the USAF new long range missile, which the F-15EX will use. there is also the increased payload of the F-15EX, and its ability to carry 8 AMRAAM/JATM when fully loaded for a2g. a late F-15E would most likely come with an AIM-120C or at most a D though. F-15EX also has Legion IRST pod while F-15E does not
F/A-18’s dont come close to any strike or advanced eagle variant in a2a or a2g ability so you couldnt use even a super hornet to fill a gap of F-15’s, same with vipers as nice as they look. and why do you want APG-63v2 and not v3? it would make the F-15C much heavier if they used the v2.
also, where else would an F-15SA even go if not the USA? the SG can go to japan sure, but the 428th FS still operates them so theyd also go to USA. same applies to F-15QA, qatar is too mixed to give all their stuff to any one nation (and was shortly used by USAF). the F-15SR would either just not come, or come to the US since its the F-15SA upgrades for an F-15S
this would work nicely. its about time stuff like this was added
Yeah that almost 4 br SPAA gap didn’t exist for a long time.
See you’re making assumptions about weapons that specifically unbalance the thing, chances are when it gets added we’ll have the 120C already and it will get those, but they can add more advanced weapons to it as there are more updates, we can start off with 120Cs and 9X, same as the late F-15E, just more weapons overall, gives it a +0.3 - 0.7 BR increase over it which would be fine, then as there are more updates, give it the 120D, the 260, and later models of 9X. You can do similar things with the F-15C and F-16C in such a way to minimize gaps in the tree, like how the F-15A has 9Ms when the F-16A doesn’t, creating an artificial BR difference between them
This is where the upgraded F-15Cs come into play, they get the legion pod, and the same A2A weapons as the F-15E or EX, and again with strategic use of armament balancing you would prevent gaps from forming in the tree, again see F-16A/F-15A
I meant the 3, just a typo on my part.
It doesn’t need to come to the game, though ideally it would be under a Saudi subtree, if they ever do make improvements to the trees somehow, either more than 5 lines, or with sub nation tabs which would be better. Also, you have to be careful about adding nations to research trees, splitting nations up isn’t ideal, and Saudi could be a subtree, obviously nations like Qatar never could be, and so having them as premiums and such is the best alternative, but Saudi Arabia isn’t necessarily one of those nations, and so by jamming them into the US tree you may end up messing up future Saudi additions.
i dont see why a Saudi F-15 to US and then Saudi Tornado and EFT to UK would be an issue tbh.
F-15QA would make sense as a premium, i agree with that.
even the upgraded F-15C arent going to be nearly as good at BVR as an F-15EX since it does have the better radar and more powerful engines, and in WVR the FBW will make it better than a regular F-15E. for sim purposes, the F-15EX will have a much nicer cockpit than an F-15C and JHMCS II which has full color display. there is also EPAWSS which is not on any production F-15C, i tried looking for any evidence of even a testbed F-15C that had it but unfortunately couldnt find anything concrete. the F-15SA still works well as a filler between the two, and brings somewhat unique capabilities with a MAWS that afaik only the SR (which probably wont come tbh) and QA (premium) have
Tbf it’s up to gaijin when they want to add these things, in which I surprised we haven’t seen more powerful aircraft as premiums yet.
id say the F-15QA would come as a premium the same update or update after the F-15EX, since it is the EX’s direct predecessor
Got a funny
tbh I say they would props sell an F-16 at least an early one and slap another user as a pre order skin.
I mean I got the Su-25 because of the Shark lol
maybe a F-16 block 52 or 32 as a premium (PW engine)?
Not only would it be the first (and only) but also a nice unique CAS option between the F-5T and OCU, which is a quite large gap.
(Even though the OCU should not have AIM-120s or AN/APG-66S.)
I mean, the F-15E is the closest analogue to the EX, and the F-15E late will be quite close, assuming they start off with the same weapons, you have the same radar, F-15E does have EPAWSS, though that is EW which is not yet modeled, you have very similar engines too, sure there’s no IRST but that isn’t so significant.
Meanwhile the F-15C has weaker engines and an equivalent A2A radar and IRST, so likely a better WVR platform which at this BR is less important so probably 0.3 lower than the F-15E
It really is only as you start adding better weapons that the EX creates a gap between it and the E though, and that isn’t really an issue given that backfilling generally has more lax rules and allows for bigger gaps, as we can see in game right now.
Just as a thought, if you added the F-15EX right now, with AIM-120Bs and AIM-9Ms and all the same A2G weapons as the E, what BR would it actually be, given the new radar and IRST, and extra weapons? 14.3? 14.7? It can’t be any higher than that really. Weapons are the real balance issue, and also the easiest thing for Gaijin to control about it, so it really wouldn’t be an issue at all.
I feel gaijin will add premiums but the problem is most nations just dont have an option that isn’t vital to the TT. Look at the storm caused by the JA37DI when gaijin wanted to lock it behind a paywall. More so i feel they could just go down the route of adding exact copies from the TT but base them off a irl squadron and give it a unique tail decal or something.
I love how Grov came on what like “Yeah but rank = pay tag stop moaning ya’ll”,
But bro forgotten about the Brazilian pack and now we have that Tiger pack lmao
Im gonna be honest, i haven’t read the past few posts and just saw yours so i have no idea what you mean, could be that i am having a stroke and i cant understand what you said lol.
it greatly improves RWR and makes CM count from 240 to 360 so even without EW the benefits would be noticeable.
a late F-15C would still have a worse radar than the EX, even if its not by a huge amount. FBW on the EX could reduce the edge the F-15C has.
i dont see why they would add such a new aircraft without what will be its main weapons in USAF service. the addition of stuff like F-15SA and SG would at least let them wait for a time to add the EX where it can come in its full capability without breaking the game.
and if they did add an EX, id say 15.0 with 9m and 120b due to all the overall improvements it has over ingame strike eagle
First time?