Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

And adding unnecessary foreign vehicles exponentially adds to this problem. Stop advocating for more grind.

Exactly. It offers more diverse lineups for those who want them, but doesn’t take away the option to only use domestic vehicles (or any other “my preferred vehicles” set) from those who want to do that.

It’s better for lineup diversity and better for the grind.

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You have to be trolling.

Well, no. History is complicated and you still need to be able to play with certain nations against others. Either in Mixed battles or in Historical gamemodes such as World War or Simulator.

(only a NATO vs USSR or Allies vs Axis tech tree would be nonsensical and too big of a grind).

Again, if you’re equating “grind” to “vehicles I’m not interested in”, then your entire argument is nothing more than “don’t add vehicles that don’t appeal to me specifically”.

Everyone has to grind through vehicles they’re not interested in, and what those are differ between all players.

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On top of that it allows to make line-ups of just that operator nation if they want.

After all, if a C&P vehicle is being added to a tree it’s more likely everything of that nation is. Which keeps said nation together and in the same place.

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No, grind is total vehicles. The more vehicles, the more grind, and as such, the more unnecessary foreign additions, the more grind also.

Now you are being contradictory.

It may not take away from your options but it will reduce the diversity of what you play against in matches, and that diversity is already lower than a lot of people like, I mean I’m fed up enough of seeing F-4S players, now imagine how much worse it would be if you could grind every nation with 1 premium, you’d go into matches and it’d be 16v16 of one aircraft

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So your argument is we should have less grind by having fewer vehicles in the game.

And, of course, that we should accomplish this my having fewer of the vehicles which don’t appeal to you personally.

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No, it isn’t. You know it isn’t. Stop using strawmen.

How so?

The only context this matters is in the case of balance/“meta” issues, which are their own problem to solve. Outside of that, one should never expect to control what other players use in a multiplayer game; that sort of thing belongs in singleplayer settings.

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The grind is only gonna get worse here on out never mind what they add

I will reword it, then: “Stop advocating for more grind through the additions of unnecessary foreign vehicles.”

You have full choice of what tree to grind

It’s difficult to frame it another way. Certain vehicles don’t appeal to you in a tree, so you don’t want to grind through them. Why they don’t appeal to you doesn’t matter.

Plenty of domestic vehicles don’t appeal to people, they still have to grind through them. And sometimes it’s the subtree vehicles which appeal to people while the domestic ones don’t, again, have to grind through the domestic ones.

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Some people forget this and main a nation then don’t want their tech in other nations even if it was in their service

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Nvm I thought you made a comment someone else made.

You either aren’t thinking much about what I’m saying, or aren’t reading it at all. U N N E C E S S A R Y F O R E I G N additions are what I’m advocating against, not additions of vehicles I don’t have an interest in.

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