F18’s airframe has a lot less drag than the phantom so it’s a bit of a wash until you’re at higher altitudes.
More like a stealthy hornet than the f15e.
War thunder is in no way influenced by irl reliability since it would ruin the viability of certain nations at certain brs, stating this shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how gaijin models vehicles and equipment in game.
If there are credible sources stating the PL-15s can hit up to 200km then the devs will use those and as a result in game it will have 200km range, doesn’t matter if it’s unreliable irl, if it can do it then it will somewhat reflect that in wt.
And besides the J-10A is still the king of dogfighting even after the Rafale and EFT so just imagine one with less drag and more thrust (or even TVC),
underestimating chinese military advancements is the first step to losing your supposed ‘technological edge’ and we’ve seen that reflected irl
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The Medium tank you list wouldn’t happen to be a Soviet T26 is it?
Or an Japanese M4?
Since when is the j10 superior to the eurofighter in bfm?
I do worry about this, Meteor is too suitable for the game, and will make it too powerful to any other missiles. unless you bring in huge monster missiles like R-37M or PL-17
Since the EFT left the dev server
What’s better about the j10?
It is more controllable at low speeds, has easier to control PSMs, has more responsive canards (eft needs theirs fixed, currently underperforming), the only places it looses to the EFT in a dogfight is thrust (meaning it struggles to keep up in a vertical but you can wiggle out of one easily) and energy retention, but besides that it’s simply better (and that’s coming from a EFT fanboy)
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Meteor isn’t the be all end all of bvr missiles. It’s worse at closer ranges than aim120c because it’s a ramjet v.s. a rocket booster.
I haven’t played the matchup at all as i only have the german eurofighter. Good to know. thanks.
According to Statshark the J-10A actually slightly outperforms the EFT and Rafale at subsonic speeds in terms of max turn rate, although this is by a very tiny amount (below 0.5 degrees per second).
EFT and Rafale both are better at supersonic speeds though, by quite a bit.
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I know, but short range missile can make this up, since you won’t bring only Meteor with you, and by that time, IRIS-T and ASRAAM should be in game.
Not how it works, the Meteor has a throttlable motor, if by close range you mean <5km headon shots then sure it will be marginally slower off the rail but operating at high capacity they are equal (besides the Meteor has a better seekerhead so i trust them over an AMRAAM)
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Well, even german eurofighters carry both aim120 and meteor for the reason’s i mentioned.
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Kinda new to the game but it seems to me long range missiles like the meteor are not a thing in game, are yall saying we should implement them?
The seeker is much better on meteor, but it’s more like within 20km or so. It just takes longer to accelerate, this allows to to have much more energy in terminal tho because it doesn’t stop accelerating when the motor burns out like aim120. It just keeps going because ramjet go brr. When you have 160-200km of range, im not sure how much 20km and closer matters.
no, I think it’s about how to deal with this probably super op missile in the future.
we have nothing to equal it, except
but clearly huge monster missiles will also bring more problems
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Meteor probably won’t be in the game until early 2026, we’re mostly just speculating.
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Ive been playing extensively between EFT and J-10A (my picks, plus the taiwanese mirage bonus) and my friend has the F-2000A and Rafale, between us we have had over 70 mock battles between both j-10 vs EFT and J-10 vs Rafale and I perform better than both of the eurocanards to the extent of a 7/10 success rate against EFT and 8/10 for rafale
I’d say my friend is roughly equal in subsonic dogfighting capabity and we both have similar KBM/Control setups so the testing is as fair as I could make it
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