Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

Do you maybe mean project 1047 (which I like to call "Scharnhorst’s Dutch Cousin)?

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Probably the US. While yes Germany helped in the conversion it is still a US airframe, and with the precedent of a Greek AH-64A in the US TT if it was to be added then the US is where it most likely would go.

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Sadly this wouldnt be something practical to offer or maintain. As you can imagine, with the sheer number of vehicles we have in games, times the number of sources per vehicle required / used (which itself can very from 10-100+ lets say depending on what), then for each system, HUD, mechanic, missile, shell and you end up with a hugely incalculable number.

Maintaining that in list form simply would not be practical. With how many people and teams working on vehicles, coupled with changes based off reports and consultant finds, it becomes clear to see why having a running list of everything ever used would not be viable sadly.

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Not something planned for the foreseeable future at least.

The biggest reason I even mention Germany is because the U.S. had literally nothing to do with the conversion itself. The conversions were done based on the work done to the F-4f ICE programs specifically.

Can we take a moment to admire how gorgeous the General Monasterio is


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What about game data we know it’s being recorded for use in br placement so could we have access to this even if in a very raw form

Perhaps not, but the tanks it faces have only gotten significantly stronger and it’s lost it’s only major advantage in having a reload rate buff. Even tanks that were weaker like the ariete are now tentatively stronger since they got the 5 seconds reload with DM53. That was no small buff for them, but the CR2 remains the same. Especially with the ahistorically tiny ready rack.

It didn’t even get a BR reduction in the “decompression”

There are also some “outside of the box” buffs they could get like giving most of them a dozer blade.

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fix keen vision

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How about Python 4 and Derby on the F-16D, it already doesn’t get AMRAAMs and is 13.7 despite being a worse airframe to the F-16C, it could be bumped up to 14.0 if needed but I’m not sure it would need it, like you say IR missiles are much more restricted in usage

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the truth hurts it seems, its good that you at least know how to insult others

russia and china have su-30

uk can get it from india:


japan can get it from malaysia:
Su30mkm_flying_at_lima_two_(cropped)

both uk and japan need more jets
(germany need more jets too lol)

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You mean like the truth that Israel already outcompetes Russia in air

and there is no real way around the Python 4 being good, they have to introduce it before the AIM-9X as that is equivalent to the Python 5 so unless they skip a missile Israel will have another spot in the limelight

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Yeah adding them alongside the existing weapons would be the best option. There’s no point in handicapping an aircraft with just IR missiles when it can carry both IR and ARH missiles.

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If they decide to make Malaysia a subtree, but Japan should get the F-2 really before any other top tier ideally

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They could replace the AIM-7 with the Python 4 in the modifications, or the AIM-9L, though at 13.7 they shouldn’t even have AIM-9L as an option

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not a sub tree necessarily, but a vehicle

like polish leopard pl in german team

What version do they have? as a premium/squadron vehicle it’s probably too high a BR for right now

Also, with one off it tends to go to the supplier nation

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i dont know but i think all su-30s are able to carry r-77 and r-73 also r-37



indian and malaysian su-30 with r-77