All of it’s weaponry is easy to shoot down with the Pantsir/Ito, unlike the Su-34 that can operate without being even contested by SPAA.
Then stop agreeing with them and you should agree with me.
Because my stance is “removing it is dumb, everyone else should be pulled up”
While at least one of them thinks that it should be removed for extremely flawed reasons
Or the R-27ER dominating air battles before we got Fox 3 missiles or the KH-38? Its totally acceptable in your eyes for an Su-25 or Su-34 to sit behind their better-than-anyone-else’s SPAA and just rain fire on everyone else but hey, we can’t counter it beacuse of an SPAA the game didnt need.
That’s exactly what my stance is.
I’m just saying, I think they are right to say that Pantsir should not have been added in the first place. They should have gotten Tor at the same time as China, and this past year would have been much more balanced.
The problem is theyre looking at balance in a one dimensional light.
Ask yourself “why did Russia get the Pantsir”
Then you stop and realize that Russia also went 2 years without a competitive CAS jet and also currently still have some of the worst top tier jets in the game.
Thats not balanced is it?
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Because the snail conveniently nerfed Tunguska to death right before they added Pantsir, to justify Pantsir.
Everyone said, ‘why don’t you just give them Tor, a Russian SPAA, since you’re giving it China?’
To which snail shrugged their shoulders and pretended they didn’t hear that.
He says, as a singular Su-34 can collapse an entire ‘Blufor’ team five seconds after spawning with literal impunity rn.
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Now if “balance” is what you all truly advocate for.
Lets remove every SACLOS SPAA in the game since Japan and Israel dont have any.
Lets remove every top tier jet until around 12.0 where most nations sit at relatively even playing fields
Lets remove every top tier MBT until around about 10.3
That is if you truly value “balance” and dont just have a vendetta against russia specifically
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And to clarify, Gaijin has said yes, there are better AA systems within say Western nations/NATO. But there’s very little self-contained systems. Patriot requires a truck to tow it and another vehicle to serve as the radar. Do we instead add a new mechanic where , for a certain amout of spawn points, you can take over a pre-deployed Patriot system? I’m not against it. But it was their own words that there isn’t much for other nations in regards to self contained AA since that wasnt the design focus of NATO and Co.
And I am only advocating for its removal because there’s no way Gaijin buffs the Flakwagen and Adats to the Pantsir’s level. As we’ve seen from their infamous IGLA missile post, they dont buff NATO vehicles like that. I just know I am no alone with those advocating its removal.
“Because Soviet engineers couldnt figure out how western engineers were able to acheieve better G-loads with the same surface area, we are limiting western missiles to their soviet counterparts”. Which was wild logic when they said that.
I don’t. I’m simply asking for everyone to catch up to Pantsir. Something snail has failed to do for 1 year and counting. And based on the Leak list not including anything, we’re now going to have to wait all the way until March to hope again.
You wanna know what impunity truly is?
The F15E strike eagle can operate outside of all SPAA range, pantsir included. While also being the best air superiority aircraft in the game.
It literally holds all the cards and its only “weakness” is that the pantsir can stall it by intercepting ordnance. Emphasis on stalling becuase it wont win if the pilot isnt stupid.
The Su34 is a STUPIDLY strong strike jet. But its defenseless from enemy air. Thats more than i can say for the eagle
Edit: hence why i think neither shouldve been added but hey
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I’m glad we agree that 1 out of 10 countries holding a massive advantage over all the others is a bad thing.
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bro spawns for pantsir battle rate matches should be 20km away from battlefield
if you nerf pantsir or remove it, then cas will give you no chance in top battle rate
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F-15I has no standoff munitions, so it’s one.
No the Raam can actually still embarass SPAA with the glide bombs.
Given SPAA has a habit of not moving
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If an SPAA player dies to a GBU39, he has nothing to blame other than his own skill issues.
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Depends on the SPAA. Theyre so tiny a lot of AA dont pick them up on radar
if this is a french spaa, then no thanks lol
Its Israeli…
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They don’t even need to detect the GBU39. Just practice moving forward / backwards like 10 metres every 20-30 seconds or so and you’ll never die to it.