Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

If you want everyone to suffer fairly then remove all saclos AA

Problem is that believing that Gaijin will add Pantsir counterpart at this point is pretty much equal to believing in fairy tales.

1 Like

But the fact that this has been allowed to exist for as long as its had is beyond ridiculous.

4 Likes

If you really struggle with a Pantsir/ItO against a bunch of easy to shoot down mavericks, that is mostly a player issue.

ignoring how there arent realy any pantsir counterparts
gajin would need to pretty much reduce air spawn costs for A2A loadouts for nato nations for it to become “equal”

2 Likes

If you think the pantsir is a problem then you have a player issue.

Wow see how that empty statenent works both ways?

1 Like

I’m not the one basically admitting they are having difficulties with mavericks.

However this is getting very off topic. You can believe in fairy tales like Gaijin actually planning on adding Pantsir counterparts, I’m not here to convince you otherwise.

6 Likes

I dont believe gaijin will add a counterpart.

Never have i believed it. I simply take issues with calling out one area where one nation surpasses the others. But ignoring or downplaying other examples of the same thing.

Especially when you hide it under the guise of wanting balance when the reality is that if Russia were in the dirt i promise you wouldnt care. You just have a vendetta

This. If you were to hold your breath for such hope, you’d be long gone by now. If advocating for equal counter parts is going nowhere, then asking for it to be removed doesn’t seem all irrational.

1 Like

So would you be ok with all nations being reduced to IR AA?

because gajin favors russia more than other nations, other nations deserve there own pansir like system, yet here we are 1 year later with the pansir being miles ahead of its competition.

Have you seen russian air?

1 Like

I have the same amount of nations up to top tier ground as you, I doubt you care more about balance for top tier ground than me lol. They could have easily gone with the TOR, but they deliberately went with the unbalanced option.

If I had a vendetta against Russia, why have I been hard arguing for 2A7/122 counterparts for every nation, including Russia, for the last year or so?

yeah dont even remind me of that… The pansir bullies western cas, while russian cas bullies western spaa. Its just not fair. it should be pansir and western spaa bully cas, but cas also bullies them and mbt’s

2 Likes

From what I hear it’s essentially going to be Starstreaks and LMM again, Thales hasn’t shown anything off yet, but Moog have been showing off their offering, with plans to present a (probably boxer) based version to the competition (which iirc is the year after next).

Does anyone else feel like Moog is a silly name for a defence company?

image

1 Like

Remind you of the fact that Russias air superiority aircraft are complete garbage?

Hey balance brigade. Thoughts on the Flanker?

3 Likes

Outdated

yes but remind you that russia has the best cas aircraft in the game, carring the best surface to ground missiles*kh-38) which ountrange and deal more damage by far more than any other system in the game

Its not the fact that they added the blanataly OP Pantsir, but that they deliberately nerfed the Tunguska to justify it. And we called them out whennthat happened. But its been allowed to dominate the spaa field with no counter.

Why not give US jets HARMs? They should have been added already. At least theres some threat to a Pantsir blasting a freshly spawned CAS aircraft.

1 Like

People screaming Russian bias whilst forgetting that Russia kinda suck in air battles is always funny