Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

It absolutely is the problem if it is the only vehicle with such capabilty and no equal or counter. As stated before, it is the only SPAA with the ability to immediately see just-spawned air craft.

Moving all CAS to runway takeoffs is a band aid fix since again, we can see that its the only SPAA with a 50km range. If you cannot add something equal to it, buff everything else to the same level, then leaving it in can’t be the solution. It should not have come to the game before everyone else got something comparable. And Gaijin has stated numerous times there isnt much else.

I say remove any kinds of markers whilst in an aircraft. You want to bomb some tanks? Better get close and take a hard look or pay an extreme SL bill.

We have that, it’s called Sim Battles. Though I’m all for removing missile markers at Air Realistic Battles.

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Do we have any theories/consensus over this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1h5jd54/old_leak_but_what_do_you_think_of_this_eu_sub/

I’ll do you one better…take out enemy markers too

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https://thunderview.net/groundradar/

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I can’t even think who would get an EU subtree.

All the EU countries ingame have 5 lines already.

More Iberian / Balkan stuff in Italy maybe?

Danish / Baltic stuff in Sweden?

Here we see the problem with the mindset you all have. You focus on the pantsir and not the real issue.

But ill humor your train of thought.

So the Pantsir needs to go because of the gap between it and the 2nd best SPAA (Ito)

But if we do that… now the Ito has an equally massive gap between it an the ADATS, so we should remove that next… but wait Japan and Israel dont have SACLOS SPAA so we should just bring everyone down to IR SPAA level.

See the issue? You dont remove the pantsir, you instead ask for others to be pulled up to your level. Removing the pantsir benefits air players and only hurts ground players more.

As for the “imbalance” argument. There is far worse instances of imbalance among nations than the Pantsir, yet you guys either choose to ignore those-

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Again, we have this. Its called Sim Battles. At this point, and I’m not 100% against it, just have Arcade and Sim Battles. Just change the name to Realistic and get rid of the faux-realistic mode.

Ah yes remove the most popular mode in the game. Surely

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People have tried that for nearly 2 years. But guess what, nothing happened.

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Thats cool, asking for the pantsir to be removed is still stupid

Edit: you wanna break little jimmys legs because mom got him a toy and didnt get you one.

Exactly. As I’ve said before; it is one of the most discussed vehicles here. And yet either community managers aren’t doing their job or Gaijin doesn’t seem to have balance as a priority.

No, we’re asking mum to get us a toy too.

But mum won’t do that, because we aren’t precious little jimmy.

They’ve already said that the Swedish tree will become a Scandinavian tree and Italy has Spanish vehicles already I believe, Portugal too, and with what Smin said about India in the British tree that means that Spain and Portugal are technically already Italian sub trees

No, you guys want to break his legs because youre asking to remove the pantsir.

Gaijin knew what they were doing, so they deserve whatever is being said.

They could have simply added the TOR-M1, which can easily keep up with the ItO, but they willingly added the way way out of balance option.

Knowing full well that other nations don’t have a real counterpart and likely not even planning on introducing any counterparts to other nations.

Hell it wouldn’t suprise me if they still aren’t planning on adding counterparts.

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If Gaijin isn’t going to add counter parts or buff others to an equal level, then myself and others are going to keep pushing for its removal.

So what are your thoughts on the F16C and it running rampant in GRB for over a year?

Out of curiosity

Or the F15E

Every single comment i have made in this discussion has said, in no uncertain terms, that I don’t think removing Pantsir is an option.

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