Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

I reckon we aren’t even getting a dev blog next week

Thanks.

Since the 81 is a smaller 77 with some more nice features, and the 77v1 is upgraded off the developments from the 81, the 77v1 still probably outperforms the CAPTOR-E.

ALLEGEDLY, some F-22 pilots were jealous of the AN/APG-63v3 put on F-15C, and since the 82v1 is a further upgrade (originally called the 63v4) it seems US jets will mostly have sensor advantage and Typhoons and Rafale’s will have WVR

so how’d we get the update out before christmas?

There is an inherent issue fighting against a plane with vectoring muzzle. A non vectoring planer, even the most manoeuvrable ones like the Eurofighter and Rafale need to use the air to create induce any movements out of the engine’s direction, while an f22 can simply wiggle out even with no airflow on its surfaces. That, plus its pretty amazing TWR, would make a plane that I would not want to get close to was I in a euro delta jet

My guess is that a big reason why it is not added to the EF is that it would weight a lot (diminishing its interesting features) and be annoying to maintain and simply not worth the upgrade since dogfight is more or less dead

In the end its far better to use HMD and an insanely manoeuvrable missile, from IRIS-T, to AIM9X, MICA, Python 5… that can easily output even an f22 than trying to out dogfight it

The otherside of the coin is that the Captor E mk2 is newer than the 81. So might have new tech/.features that werent developed when the 81 entered service.

Ultimately though, we wont know for decades.

That being said. Europe does have a good history when it comes to radar developement. (Blue Vixen for example outperfomed even AWACS when it entered service in the 1990s and was half the size of the AN-APG-73)

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If you want precise penetration estimations for the CT40, this excellent EBRC Jaguar suggestion sums it up :

TLDR : According to the old 1999 US army test, we would get 166mm at 0m for the APFSDS round.

However, based on the OP calculations from modern photos and given that the APFSDS used at the time were smaller than the ones used today (219mm length in 1999 vs 255mm length today), it is plausible that with today’s munition estimations, the round would be able to pen up to 192mm at 0m. Of course, it will be up to Gaijin to decide which projectile will be used.

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battle rate changes for air is not stoppable cuz many new jets are not here yet

How far in advance of the release date do we know where new vehicles are placed in their respective tech trees?

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I don’t think it is stated in devblogs
So I’d say on dev server
That would be around a week before (maybe little more)

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That ship was an example of military procurement gone awry. It was supposed to be a new generation of combate ahips with nothing but untested systems rather then integration of known working systems. Ultimately it ended before the teething could finish cause of the over budget nature.

Cool and release dates are announced in teaser/trailer or dev blog first? I’ve never followed updates for this game before and I’m getting antsy on where any F/A-18s end up in the USA tree.

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Release date is not announced
Never really was
You’ll just have to keep your eyes on news section when technical works are announced, that means that update will go live next day (after the maintenance is over)

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Devblogs first for about a week or two, then thursdays teaser and Friday the dev stream followed by a test on a dev server.

Only guarantee we have is that the update will drop before December 24th, so 23rd at most.

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I’d say week before
Either 17th or 19th December

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I’m hoping for that tbh - for that to happen we’d need the dev stream and server next friday

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I’m sure someone has a spreadsheet where there are first devblog dates (and how many devblogs were released until the teaser) and teaser release dates for comparison

I assume you mean this

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Yes, that’s it
Thank you
EDIT: Huh, teaser reveal is predicted to be on 5th. Makes sense IMO

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You cannot simply generate infinite airflow, if an F-22 pilot entered a fight with a eurocanard and exclusively used a strategy of using his TVC to pull high AoA to point his nose, then he will just be fried as the typhoon or rafale climb over his nose, roll and pitch down to gain an easy shot while he is trying to recover his airspeed, it’s TWR might be amazing but there is still a lengthy period of recovery from a high alpha manoeuvre.

A smart F-22 pilot will not excessively use his TVC, instead using it more as a tool than a feature of the aircraft, this will grant him the ability to stay above the nose of the opponent or quickly save himself from a sticky situation, however it is not the ungodly capability you make it out to be .