but it never used supercharges, afaik those were only for land mounts
Because it is needed and the era of batleship/battlecruiser was not over. It was until late 1950s that Western could confirm that USSR finally let their battleship dream gone, and they could get reliable anti-ship nuclear attack. Until then, battleships were needed for last insurance against possible future soviet battleship.
From what I can find. It could use them, But didnt. But ony Vanguard
the supercharges were used on the 15 inch mounts that had limmited elevation angles and only vangard had its turrets modified to use them but never did due to peace time operations
But, no nation was churning out mass numbers of battleships. Instead stronger aircraft carriers were developed.
Even by the end of WW2, You didnt have Yamato vs Iowa showdowns. Yamato was ultimately sunk by aircraft.
That is what I mean. The time of Battle of Jutland style engagements ended during WW2
looks like the 16/50 could hit 41k yards on regular charge
A 26 year newer gun, in a larger calibre. Yeah, probably could
The impressive thing to remember about the 15" Mk1. It entered service in 1915. Vs Iowa in 1941
Well operational plan and real life is always different. At least, navies sees big bomber with guided bombs were more dangerous than pack of carrierborne aircraft although later one sunk more battleships than former. In same logic, though turn of tide has come from battleships to carriers, battleships needs to be last insurance against enemy battleship, especially in a close range that can be occured in Baltic and Black Sea.
US Navy still operates Iowa class and put NC and SD class in reserve for such role. Royal Navy also keeps KGV class for such roles. Don’t ask for QE/R and standard battleships as they were supposed to end its life at 1920s if not treaty was assigned and already at limit of their hull lifetime.
yeah but the ranges you give for the 15in are for the mid 1930s overhaul, so yeah, the basis for the gun is quite old, but was pretty heavily upgraded
Yep, which is why Vanguard stayed in service till 1960.
So as she still stayed in service, she needs to ready for battle. Thats the reason why she got modified turrets to use supercharge, and planned to operate super-charged AP on wartime though not in real life peace time
question what kind of improvments in penitration would have been improved going to the supercharged shells with the 15 inch guns
Technically the guns werent changed, only the mountings, allowing for 30° angle vs 20° on the earlier ships.
That… I dont know and I dont think I want to do a deep dive to try and find out tonight.
@Rileyy3437 Might have that info on hand though
Of course shell velocity got much higher. 752 m/s with ordinary charge vs 804 m/s with super charge. Also British 15’’ shell is quite heavier for its size compared to British 16’’ of Nelson and Lion(which is not finished), so actual penetration is similar or even higher than those guns.
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would also be intresting to see if the 16 inch british gun reload as it was reported that during the bismark fight they execded the on paper reload at points if i am rembering the vidieo from Drachinifel on battle ship guns correctly
reload times are definetly a balancing thing. So… God knows what our 16 inch reload times would be.
Japans 16" ships like IJN Amagi have a higher RoF than Hood (I think) . approx 5-10 second faster reload (24 second reload I think vs Hoods 30 seconds) . Id guess Britains 16" guns would have a RoF something like 1 round per minute or something stupid like that
fuck i am going to ask the ai overloards what it thinks the reload rate is
Id guess Nelson will be around 40-45 second reload