Britain Naval Tree - What’s left to be added for all BRs

For top tier there’s F-20, but well, unless BR moves, yes 7.0 premium would be hard to expect.

You mean in Arcade, right? Because in realistic even jets struggle against early WW2 BBs.

Depends on time. VT fuze actually comes in service at late war. I’m nost sure about Royal Navy, but for the US Navy first ship to test VT fuze was USS Cleveland on winter of 1943 and field service was started on 1944.

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There is also when it “entered service” and when they were allowed to use it. iirc. They were quite heavily restricted in when and where they could use it to keep it a secret from the Germans, The last thing they wanted was Germany discovering HE-VT even existed, let alone recovering one to reverse engineer. Even its name HE-VT (high Explosive variable time) shows that

That looks like Hood crossed with Vanguard. So a very pretty ship.

Though i think if they were to refit Hood they would have made the deck more flush with more flare and beam on the bow and possibly given her a transom stern.

This list seems totally bs, from top to the bottom and pretty lazy to that.

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so i have been looking into supercharged shells on the 15 inch shells and how much more penetration that would give the guns i would up the penitration to around 520mm ish at 15,000M but if anyone has more concrete data on how much better they would be that would be nice to know

I believe somebody did the full calculation and its much improved, giving even higher pen pointblank than the high velocity German 15" on Bismarck.

Another thing is they will be late war shells with a proper APCBC cap for less penetration dropoff and and longer shells in addition to that with 6crh heads.

Unfortunately the better shell body quality and quality of the capping won’t be reflected but historically Britain put a lot of effort into that in order to ensure shells penetrated intact.

How about a South African ship for the UK tree?


on old calculator for ground, point blank pen is similar but for long range penetration, 15’’ supercharge exceed German 14.96’’ cause of heavier shell. Maybe even surpassing Lion’s 16’’ in game due to flatter trajectory and longer travel distance before thosse short fuze explode.

Besides, heard some rumor that Royal Navy actually can reload faster than 30 seconds even according to legit reloading procedure. But those who saids that he needs time to find sources he once saw. Any Idea?

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i know this is from my video, where i said i highly doubted it in the first place, and then commented its fake (i hate how you cant pin comments on tiktok)

1 the world of war thunder news doesn’t revolve around you and 2 not everyone uses tiktok.

well it might be like how during rodney’s fight with bismark exceded her on paper reload

Sounds about right, but even so the UK shells also have a better bursting charge iirc. German 38cm has 20.25kg of TNT, whereas British 381mm has 22kg of Shellite which is a 70/30 ratio of Lyddite and dinitrophenol. In-game Lyddite has a TNT modifier of about 10% higher than equivalent weight in TNT so its a little bit better overall.

The HE shell disparity is absolutely insane though.

Main issue with Bismarck class vs for example Vanguard is gun handling and reload. The Shell differences are contrarily favourable to the RN.

As for the reload thing, I recall seeing 2.2 RPM being possibly achieved which would be pretty nice and not too far from Bismarck class’ 2.3 at 4 degrees elevation (which is <10,000 metres range so really Bismarck shouldn’t get many shots like that).

I’m gonna keep looking into it.

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man this latest pasted to the dev’s is kinda boring like only 3 things passed for navel and non are to intresting looking outside of the cruiser having a nukes on it

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At least something has come through, we are waiting in vain for gap fillers in all naval trees.

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i would love for some decompression mabye up to 8.0/.3 to try give some room to the later cruisers and early BB’s

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The paper addition of HE-VT ammunition shouldn’t be a problem for the Admiral class Battlecruiser as afterall a few soviet warships that were sunk early war have have the ZS-46R HE-VT shell type (or those ships come in line with HMS Hood & receive older ZS-46 HE-DF shells).

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AFAIK they already saids ammunition on capital ships and cruisers & destroyers were different stories.

i still find them not giving hms renown he-vt as a bit of a fuck you from the snail

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Well they always do it for Royal Navy. While they saids every capital ship would have crew comparment on their armor belt, we still have Orion and Barham who has crew compartment on upper belt and casemates. And they were the ship that were added Gaijin states movement of crew compartment.

Dang, I must have missed when they said this but I guess that makes some sense even if it’s a crock of shit, heh for a game that used to strive for historical accuracy of equipment the balancing of shells is a poxy concept.

Although confusing that another example is the minelayer HMS Abdiel M39 in its 1941 configuration has HE-VT ammunition even when it was lost in 1943 or hell the K class destroyer HMS Kelvin F37 in its 1939 configuration having 4.7" HE-VT ammunition.

I guess it’s once again down to Brutain tax for the mighty Hood or just the usual picking & choosing style the devs use often.

Niche slightly offtopic sidenote on the HMS Hood, while I’m nowhere close to getting it, I know a elderly lady who’s best friends farther went down with that Battlecruiser…