Currently, the PZH-2000hu version is available in Hungary with a range of about 40 km and SMART ammunition. Both Pzh-2000 and Ceaser are used on the Ukrainian front. Currently, 2-3 Ceasers are definitely destroyed or 1 is definitely in Russian hands, the Pzh-2000 is not a loss as far as I know, it is damaged.
For now we need to sadly watch them being in USSR TT. Hope for better future for those vehicles. But shame that if there will be a TT for them, we will not see 30mm Moderna version, thanks to it being a evet vehicle, but at least we can still have the 20mm Moderna
Czechoslovakia as an independent tree would only be viable as a ground force. In the air, in a helicopter, there would be 80% copy paste, and on the ground there would also be large br holes. There is no sea.
Yes for the Soviet Union subtree.
There is nothing that says we have to start with the F-15A. There is no problem with adding the F-15C(early) first.
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Soviet TT, same as US and German TT doesnt need sub-TT as all
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Saying air would be 80% copy paste is false, considering the domestic jet attackers/trainers and lower tier aviation industry Czechoslovakia had.
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Germany gets Argentina, Austria gets Switzerland. U.S. I mean Latin America. The Soviet Union, North Korea and Czechoslovakia are perfect.
That would actually make more sense as they would be able to give it to 3 TTs instead of 2.
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Plus previosly mention. Some planes were modified like @TADAMAT said in one comment here, Mig-15 that had 6 hard points for bombing. We had British Mosquito but armed it with German guns. And so few more
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Since the Soviet Union also used L-29, L-39, it has a place here.
Yeah, But those jets were training one which had pretty much no armaments. Max like 2 gun pods with 7,6mm MGs
Pretty much more than enough for Gaijin
Looks at T-80U and Mi-28A.
Great premium discount.
Yes, there was also a B-24 squadron in Czechoslovakia…
Huh? i dont know what you ment with that?
Yeah this is my reasoning as well. I would rather skip an earlier variant and have slightly more balance than the other way around.
T-80U and Mi-28A in Sweden TT, T-80U only was trialed, Mi-28A was never purchased and was flown always by russian pilot while operators were swedish.
If the listed aircraft were used as training ones that its more than enough following these addings.
Hungury has around 24 PzH-2000 and Czechia will have 62 CAESARs. Even though the system is slightly worse on paper, we will still have 2,5 times more guns to fire with and thats much better than having slightly better system.
Also the fact that CAESAR was destroyed in Ukraine is not really important, because it’s sign that the gun was being used up to now since it was delivered. On the other hand PzH-2000 was not destroyed because it was wore out by continued fire and destroyed by hostile muddy terrain, so Ukraine stopped to use them
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And im talking about training jets that we sold almost to half of the world that were used as trainer and had no armament. Max 7,6mm MG pods. Only later version of those jets that USSR and Russia doesn’t own were able to carry A2A and A2G pay loads.
Im still missing the connection. And for Swedish T-80U and Mi-28A, trust me, i would love to see something else there, something from Finland or Norway.
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Yes the 80% is false he loves to use that number but TBH the Czechoslovak AF TT really is problematic the pre war industry produced planes which are able to reach to the low part of rank 2 and then there are just couple of modifications from German planes (the Avia S-199 and S-92 ect.) And then there are the jet trainers/light CAS.
Other things are basically copy paste with very small differences like gunpods and some ammo.
You are forgetting that all of these countries (Germany, USA. USSR) are actually unable to fit sub tree. Gaijin has famously set maximum of 5 lines and none of these have such space to accommodate 20-30 new vehicles of subtree.
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One is a squadron vehicle and the other is a premium. They are so perfect for that.