Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 1)

[_Renzo]

@x_Shini

i am not grabbing them randomly, i am just naming the most useful ones that are “urgently” needed. Of course every dutch vehicle would have a place. Thats just how sub trees work. The Hungary sub tree adiditon is the same, a lot copy paste of german russian stuff in mid tier/high tier, while the unique stuff is mostly low tier, just like dutch would be for germany

You are grabbing vehicles randomly in the sense that Germany had no connection to them. Aka “yeah I’ll take these vehicles developed by this nation, these vehicles from this nation etc”.

Also known as nation mains going “moar moar moar”.

@x_Shini

of course skins would be an option as well, the sadder option but viable, question is just always if their would be intresting ones

Only the sadder option for German mains, showing what this is truely only about.

@x_Shini

i would argue that germany doesnt do this besides currently the F 16 and apache since they are just obvious holes. Things like the KF41 does have a lot to do with germany

Which is already too many. And I remember very little people asking for the KF41 to stay exclusive to Italy.

I was for the KF41 for Germany, against the 2A6/AHS/T 80 U/Mi-28A for Sweden etc and I will be against German mains doing the same.

[dotSHINI]

@Smugspite

I don’t think germany needs an F16

It is mostly for the future, germany only has 2 vehicles left for air (3) if you wanna count F 35, but the Eurofighter is god knows how long away, that leaves the F4F Ice which will be dead on arrival. The airframe just is to old to compete with the new generation fighters and the F16 is fox 3 capable as well

@Smugspite

and last I checked germany up until the last update was the only nation in the game with fire and forget atgms on helicopters, so why you would ever need an Apache is beyond me

funny thing but most german players would tell you they would love more reliable missles option like Hellfires, the problem with f&f missles is that 1 single bush makes the missle self destruct, they only are reliably useable on desert maps. The new italien and french helis have the choice to choose the best missles they want depending on the map, while the UHT is useless on 75% of the maps, that is not mentioning the lack of chin turret which makes CAS runs nearly impossible

[_Renzo]

@_Fleks

And Germany itself is the German Confederation, which included countries such as Germany, Austria, part of the Netherlands and, unofficially, Switzerland and Denmark.

I have looked at a couple maps of this German confederation and I have yet to find one with part of the Netherlands included.

[Smugspite]

now if we reallllllly wanted to get into it, Queen Victoria did still have ties to Hanover

[Deathmisser]

Coughs in Dane law

[_Fleks]

Spoiler

[StormRyder13]

I see a lot of the word “Some”.

Some doesn’t mean all.

It doesn’t make the UK a Commonwealth tree. Now if they us “All” it would be but they didn’t

[Deathmisser]

https://forum.warthunder.com/t/off-topic-discussion

[_Fleks]

Does, lol

[Smugspite]

[_Renzo]

The free part of the Netherlands is pretty much just current day Netherlands with Limburg, so not much of value was lost.

[mr_boo]

pretty much nothing is

[dotSHINI]

@_Renzo

You are grabbing vehicles randomly in the sense that Germany had no connection to them. Aka “yeah I’ll take flthese vehicles developed by this nation, these vehicles from this nation etc”.

yeah, but thats just because germany as a country is comparibly small,
UK gets the whole commonwealth as access to possible vehicles,
Italy gets Hungary, Turkey, Romania, arguably Hungary would have fitted to Germany better as well if a future sub tree would be added even on the cost of no modern heli.
USSR gets access to all the old communist nation if it wants.
China is collagation of 2 nations as well, with chinese and american vehicles
US is the biggest weapon developer world wide
Sweden is Finnland, Norway maybe Denmark
Germany as it stands only gets argentinia which is 1 vehicle in different variants
Arguably currently only japan and israel are kinda fucked

Edit: Forgot France, france doesnt have sub tree stuff either currently, but they would/ should have access to south african vehicles as well, besides that they arguably have more to do with greek or spain then germany i would guess

Nearly every tree is a giant collegation of nations which allows way more variety, compared to germany which mostly stands alone

[_Fleks]

In any case, it was included historically. The whole purpose of this unification was for the German-speaking peoples to be together as a union

[mr_boo]

i’m sorry i still don’t see it

[Mongaroth33]

@x_Shini

arguably, Hungary would have fitted to Germany

you meant to Russia, it has a lot more common vehicles with it rather than with Germany

[Smugspite]

god no, russia is the last nation that needed a leo2 and KF41 lol

[Deathmisser]

I’ve sent you a message over at off topic m8 : D

[Mahiwew]

I regret to inform you that the Dutch aren’t a German speaking people…

[someweirdname]

not German German But a West Germanic Language

just like English