F-15E is already stronger than the Typhoon in BVR as it has more missiles and a better radar with equal FM in terms of max speed and climb rate. F-15E with Aim-120C5s would gain a MASSIVE advantage over the Typhoon once again.
Given just how poorly modeled the Typhoon is and how they refuse to fix the radar, FM, CMs, etc etc. Then it should have equal AAMs to the F-15 and Su-30
f15e is not really better than EFT in BVR though due to its poor turning performance not allowing you to get nose on to launch a missile quickly after defeating an incoming missile. This allows any reasonable competent pilot in EFT to safely pressure the f15e until they make a mistake and die.
I don’t believe we will get next gen ir missiles right now, but with how fast we got new long range missiles it will probably be in december ?
It seems fitting for me with this test with spaa for those new missiles too.
This is kinda exactly what I wanted to avoid, Gaijin bouncing around giving each nation new missiles piecemeal and resulting in each update a new nation bodying all others, instead of all at once
First of all they shouldnt leave 120c to some planes that will have to fight against them
I’m just here to make a humble request
gib 9X to the AH-1Z
‘All at once’ doesn’t have to be this update
I just hope the 9X also ends up on the AH-1Z , just like they did with the 9L back in the day.
It would give a decent performance kick to an otherwise okay-ish helicopter.
Reading this thread, I understand that the “new missiles” will also be included for aircraft, so could someone tell me what missiles will be available for Israeli aircrafts? please.
well
not yet
but in some futher updates i think that could be done
Also would be good to start from worsest examples, such as R-74(worsest IRCCM, not even matrix), AIM-9X(Worsest range), maybe smth else too
Yeahhh no
All versions of the typhoons use AIM-120C-5 and AIM-120B as their main ordinance at one point then switch to the Meteor Missile in later times so yes AIM-120C-5 should go to the Eurofighter typhoon
this isnt a historical armament question but a balancing question, the only planes that are getting 120C5 are the ones which have the lowest player stats in an attempt to balance top tier
adding the same missiles to some of the aircraft with the best stats counter mines the balancing ability of this addition
If it was the F-18C and only the F-18C, then that argument might hold a slither of truth. But the F-15C would barely need a buff to be equal to the Typhoon let alone the F-15E.
F-15E = Typhoon.
If F-15E gets AIm-120C5s then Typhoon should get Aim-120C5. Its that simple.
Depending on how the IIR missiles get modelled I wouldn’t want them to be available on aircraft until Gaijin works on improved countermeasures and proper ECM.
Without modern countermeasures those missiles would just be too strong.
And just like with the introduction of IRCCM and ARH missiles, there definitely need to be some general gameplay changes in ARB, which likely will not happen however and make top tier even more painful than it already is.
Yes, this would bring the A-A capability of AH-1Z to another level, since it’s already weaker than other heli with fire and forget missiles in terms of A-G.
Wheres the extra advantage?
the 120c has worse range then the 120b when fired below 10000 feet or at a target below 10000 feet, it only better range when you start climbing 16-38000 and firing at targets at 16-38000. how much extra range are you hoping to get out the addition of a missile that for most of the match will have less range then the 120b
In game? or IRL?
Im assuming hte current performance on the dev server is wrong. A missile with less drag and more sustainer will obviously have better range
But if its just WVR performance, then it should stil come to the Typhoon, because the lack of a WVR missile on the Typhoon is a major issue
in game the range is less. you are using the same arguement everyone who wants more stuff is saying. “it has better range in real life therefore i should have more in game” when the missile in game isnt like it is in real life.
just like the mica the 120c isn’t realistic. its that was for a reason
That’s a pretty terrible argument to make. You just want to accept without issue a weapon being incorrectly modelled? And if you believe the 120C should be worse than the 120B in-game what’s the problem with the Typhoon getting access to a downgrade of a weapon it already has?
Gaijin specifically added the C-5 block whose main upgrade was an improved boost-sustain motor for approximately 50% increased range over the 120B. They chose this over the C-3 or C-4 blocks which did not have such range improvement. The dev server is a WIP and I suspect and hope the C-5 's range will be increased.