this isnt a historical armament question but a balancing question, the only planes that are getting 120C5 are the ones which have the lowest player stats in an attempt to balance top tier
adding the same missiles to some of the aircraft with the best stats counter mines the balancing ability of this addition
If it was the F-18C and only the F-18C, then that argument might hold a slither of truth. But the F-15C would barely need a buff to be equal to the Typhoon let alone the F-15E.
F-15E = Typhoon.
If F-15E gets AIm-120C5s then Typhoon should get Aim-120C5. Its that simple.
Depending on how the IIR missiles get modelled I wouldn’t want them to be available on aircraft until Gaijin works on improved countermeasures and proper ECM.
Without modern countermeasures those missiles would just be too strong.
And just like with the introduction of IRCCM and ARH missiles, there definitely need to be some general gameplay changes in ARB, which likely will not happen however and make top tier even more painful than it already is.
Yes, this would bring the A-A capability of AH-1Z to another level, since it’s already weaker than other heli with fire and forget missiles in terms of A-G.
Wheres the extra advantage?
the 120c has worse range then the 120b when fired below 10000 feet or at a target below 10000 feet, it only better range when you start climbing 16-38000 and firing at targets at 16-38000. how much extra range are you hoping to get out the addition of a missile that for most of the match will have less range then the 120b
In game? or IRL?
Im assuming hte current performance on the dev server is wrong. A missile with less drag and more sustainer will obviously have better range
But if its just WVR performance, then it should stil come to the Typhoon, because the lack of a WVR missile on the Typhoon is a major issue
in game the range is less. you are using the same arguement everyone who wants more stuff is saying. “it has better range in real life therefore i should have more in game” when the missile in game isnt like it is in real life.
just like the mica the 120c isn’t realistic. its that was for a reason
That’s a pretty terrible argument to make. You just want to accept without issue a weapon being incorrectly modelled? And if you believe the 120C should be worse than the 120B in-game what’s the problem with the Typhoon getting access to a downgrade of a weapon it already has?
Gaijin specifically added the C-5 block whose main upgrade was an improved boost-sustain motor for approximately 50% increased range over the 120B. They chose this over the C-3 or C-4 blocks which did not have such range improvement. The dev server is a WIP and I suspect and hope the C-5 's range will be increased.
So, what’s the main benefit to the C-5? is it just extra range or is there something more to it?
Is it 27er levels of range and speed?
No guidance delay, more G and a longer sustainer iirc
So off the rail turning and longer range for sure. Didn’t the c-5 have clipped wings though making it pull less G?
It did have clipped wings but did also pull more G I think?
hmmm. Wonder if were gonna get some leaks about it soon lol
Longer range, higher G, better seeker, faster, more energy.
Personally I wish Gaijin just added the C-4 with improved load but not improved range for just the F-18s, but if the 120C-5 is being added it’s important that all nations keep parity instead of just the US and Israel
thats why all the 14.0 planes with the worst average stats got 120C5, to attempt to give them parity to the 14.0 planes with better average stats
So when the F-15E/I starts sky rocketing above everyone else in terms of “player stats” does that mean everyone else can get Aim-120C8s?
no if that happens they will probably heavily nerf 120C5 like they did to 120A/B right after they were added
Given Strike Eggles are seemingly misused as bombtrucks, I doubt even 120Ds would change much.
At the same time, if Eggles get C5, their stats somehow skyrocket, then either C5 gets nerfed, removed or other 14.0 get C5. All options will result in Eggles falling behind again, with last scenario of “AK47s C5s for everyone” might result in Eggles getting C8
No sustainer, but a very long burning rocket motor
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no sustainer at all