Why do I feel like this list is based on how much you’ve died to a certain plane?
probably
I was only doing aircraft in ranks 7 and 8, i didnt touch any of the lower ones
yes its not perfect, i did it rather quickly which is why i was asking for feedback
i thought i did although i couldve missed some
i was putting anything with medium range ARH missiles at at least 14.0
it would get 4 max, and the r77 isnt great
the german and russian first mig29s are the same br
the German MiG29G with R27ER would be higher
yes
as i dont have access to stats to balance like gaijin does, i used my own personal experience flying most of these aircraft
16.0 is very possible if you decompress 8.3+, and not 10.0+. 15.0 is very easy to achieve by just decompressing the 12.3+ BR range, and it’s quite easy to find another 1.0 BRs of decompression elsewhere.
I don’t disagree.
just study and make paper on 0.7 matchmaking bracket. this BR changes are too hard to be done because realistically most problem are related to how strong vehicle at 1.0 BR diff are.
lol you avoided my question as if it was a cop
An Su-39 would be 13.0 with R-77s in WT right now, why would it be lower on that list?
FA2 even with AMRAAM is barely stronger than the F-14A at the moment, and at most, equal to the F-14B without Aim-9M. Certainly shouldnt be considered equal to the F3 late or superior to the F-14B with Aim-9M. Its loadout is mass of compromises. Its strongest loadout leaves it with no gun or IR missile
Maybe in the future if they ever fix the FA2, it could be higher, but still would be weaker than the F3 Late, especially if it ever gets fixed/finished too (and they both have the same major issue, BOL)
Give it a MAW and it can be 13.0
It’s unreasonable for a modern ARH carrier to be below 13.0.
If I didn’t know any better I’d say you and Morvran are the same person unless he likes stalking your replies.
But I guess the sea harrier FA2 better go up in br then? It’s aams aim-120bs are far more effective than a R-77
It’s also faster, has more cms, and a very good acceleration/ turn time.
(According to the OP’s original idea)
Being a slower platform, the Su39s missing aams would be as powerful, in fact they’d be slightly better than R-73s pretty much.
The 12.7 title would fit then.
Absolutely 0 reason it should be any higher
Whatboutism of the Sea Harrier fails you.
The AIM-120s are equals, and they have similar acceleration.
Either way the Su-39 doesn’t need moved up to 13.0 with R-77s.
Uh no they aren’t… I’ve flown aircraft sporting both. The aim-120 is far better
Why do I feel like this list is based on how much you’ve died to a certain plane?
And that’s got to be F-4J(UK) at 13,3 !
Well it needs refining… certainly better tha GJ MM right now.
You can add new weapons if anything. Very easily.

I really want to just tell ppl who makes “BR changes” as suggestion to just refer and study a lot about “O.7 Matchmaking range limit” because it just solves every problem war thunder has when it comes to balancing vehicle relative to their BR
That would solve the problem like… tomorrow without many, or even any changes.
But people prefer decompression .
If you asked me , i’d first do 0,7 BR range … and if with some tweaks where it’s needed doesn’t work, then i’d decompress.
The A-7E at 11.0 somehow infuriates me really bad, i wonder why …
Oh ye, cuz it’s a piece of crap right now, that’s why!
||F-4S Phantom II|12|12.7
|F-4J(UK)|12|13.3
|Harrier GR.7|12.3|12.3||
||Tornado GR. 1|11.7|12.3|
||Kfir Canard|11|12.3||
||Kfir C.2|11.7|12.3|
Naaaahhh…
I am sure that you need to run a quick misspelling check and spec difference between planes.
Kfir Canard with 2x AIM-9G and Tonka IDS brick on 12.3 while F-4Shameless and 23ML are on 12.7…?
You are overestimating the capability of supersonic bombers too much.
I thank you for your contribution to building the idea of new decompression.
But what if this suggestion officially drops in without any changes
(Which will never gonna happen)
I think I can finally quit playing this game.
In the current chart, strike aircraft became even worse and overtiered than now. Which will make them unplayable even more.
Even though you run a large scale of decompression.
Leave the Su-17 and 22 alone and also the A-10 they are already very unplayable at their BR without a radar and not so fast and the older one of SU-17 and 22 don’t have flares Not sure about other planes but the Mig-21SMT with the first gen missiles isn’t going to do well in that BR
+1 Decompression First, Minor trimming Next
hell no bro :sob: j7d should be downtiered to 10.3 not 11.3
The A-7E at 11.0 somehow infuriates me really bad, i wonder why …
I’ll use this as an example.
He decompressed the BR by …2.0 , which means 6 stages.
A-7E goes up…0,3 , 1 stage.
With such decompression it would be way less contested than what it is now.

j7d should be downtiered to 10.3
Low quality bait