I am genuinely really upset about the changes, i had literaly just got to a lineup i liked in coastal ( brit 2.3) and was really enjoying it for the first time. This has totally ruined the experience.
Btw, i like arcade for the torpedos and aircraft interactions with it. I do not care for either in realistic.
Gaijin literaly ruined the game for me.
Quite sad about it.
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Oh jeez, the bot script makers are going to have an absolute field day :)
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naval arcade is unplayable… considering quitting the game
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they moderate and scrub the forums…
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7pm That was my usual online time but after trying the NAB system a couple of times , I’ve moved to RB …it’s ok ,but preferred the pace of the previous NAB.
My main issue with new system is i found it boring , repetitive and dull , just constant use of fire button and hoping that I wasn’t being targetted.
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Like I said before, some players will obviously move to Naval Realistic. This makes sense, especially if you don’t mind Realistic aiming. From the devs perspective, players that switch to Realistic are not a problem. They will still play the game, some of them will still buy something at least from time to time.
The only thing that hurts the devs are players that decide to leave this game mode completely. Because this means less players overall, which basically turns the game into a single player game. Of course some players will enjoy destroying bots over and over again, but at the long-term there is no purpose in it, there is no future for this type of game.
I don’t even understand how some Naval Realistic players be happy with this situation. Yes, some players will switch from Naval Arcade to Naval Realistic, but most players will just stop playing Naval game mode. Fewer players means less money for Gaijin due to less interest in the game. There will be barely anyone recommending this game for new players. Fewer players also means less resources put into the development of the game mode, because it’s simply not worth it from the company perspective. You could already see that Naval is not treated equally to Air or Ground game modes, because it always had less players than these game modes. Imagine what will happen with even fewer players.
I personally don’t see any positives in this situation. I’m sure it will only get worse as more and more players will find this new aiming system boring and pointless.
The worst part is that there is no guarantee that even if the devs revert the aiming change, all the players who decided to leave the game will come back. There is a good chance that many of these players will not return. It may be difficult to even achieve the pre-update situation. And that’s why I don’t understand making such significant change to Naval Arcade without consulting the players. This change is massive, it affects every player hugely, it’s basically an “adapt or leave” scenario. Are such changes really necessary in the Naval game mode?
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But under the new aiming system, we earn more SL than before in BR4.7-5.3. Actually most of the players in naval AB just for the SL, now Gaijin just turned it into a SL maker.
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This is true, with much less players, more AI bots and basically a legal aimbot (which the new aiming system in Naval Arcade really is), it will be much easier especially for inexperienced players to get SL in Naval.
I’m sure this statement is incorrect. There are for sure some players that only play Naval to grind SL, but I don’t think there are too many of them. I can’t imagine not liking the game mode but playing it solely to grind SL.
Especially you have other options to grind SL. My first recommendation would always be to buy a good premium vehicle in the game mode you enjoy and just play it when you need SL. This is the best option, because it also gives you fun. It doesn’t matter which game mode you play, a good premium vehicle will give you good SL.
Of course it’s faster to grind SL in Naval than Air or Ground. But why would you torture yourself by playing a game mode you don’t like just to get SL faster? Just play the game mode you enjoy the most with a premium vehicle and you won’t even notice when you collect tons of SL, while having a lot of fun at the same time.
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I often played naval AB for the battle pass tasks which were mostly much easier as in air or ground - and the SL earnings are definitly much higher
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To make SL, the most important thing is efficiency, AB has shorter time than RB. But for fun, teamed with your friends is the key, most of us research BB in RB and then earn quick SL with all premium vehicle’s preset. Second, sometimes we play AB is for battlepass mission or daily mission, when AB’s mission is more easier than RB, why not just choose the simplest one to finish. Third, to research costal ship tech-tree, AB is easier than RB to research it. The last thing, we just enjoy killing quickly to earn more score.
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Same here…
Battle pass grind was fun… now need to mix and match as after planes being so easy target…cant get close enough to drop a bomb and PE-8 cow gets sniped just after the spawn.
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additonally some times ago the probability to destroy a bomb in bomb bay or in-flight by AA gunfire was increased by factor - even when a bomb was dropped from a already doomed plane it was often destroyed before impact.
Noticed that ship research got slower and crew doesn’t master so fast. Good old early days managed to master Germany, Russia and in the middle of USA, Japan, Britain and the progress is soooooooo slow.
Same as in ground, dont like the modern vehicles, stopped around 6.0 and sometimes come back to 1.0 for chaos and pew pew.
And same here, battlepass, daily missions. Dont care about SL as i oscilate ~16M (had 200M but spent on crates) depending if i get new vehicles or buy some crates.
All was for fun and kill time in the evenings… now it is just frustration when killed by phantom shells flying from other side of the map.
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Yes, and that is why I vote against the new aiming system while defending it, at least Gaijin should give us a choice to use old one.
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i think having a choice would only benefit ones who would choose point and shoot mode.
If a choice to make is available as an option, i would group players with same aiming method not to favor anyone. as simple as that…
Never seen any voting done or prpoposed on features done addressed to players. They can do a email to all users as well they would filter out active or bot accounts like that when responding would be mandatory.
They should prepare a moc/poc server for all to have a feel about proposed changes not only for creme de la creme players with popular streamings…
All the effort put to this feature could have been spent in something else like improvements, map design or even new vehicles not like recently most of the time copy-paste variants for other nations.
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Sadly, the answer is yes, new aiming system beat old one when the ship without any movement. But Gaijin ignore the naval community for a longtime, I don’t think they will really withdraw the new aiming system, they just push old AB players to RB. So maybe give us a chance to choice old system is the best solution. And in another vote post, u can see some players indeed like the new aiming system. About the server, now RB 7.0 full player’s match always crash and kick every players out, I really don’t think Gaijin’s potato sever can do what u say.
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I made a proposal to fix that Изменить видимость трассеров при виде от 1 лица - Принято к рассмотрению - War Thunder — официальный форум but they fixed it slightly only for your shells.
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if they looked on the comments given here during dev-server was open GJ could get a idea about the players vote on the aimbot - even then they could have start some communication with the player on the forum like they did on other changes. But sadly nothing - naval players in this forum are completely ignored.
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Thank you very much for coming over to the English side of the forums to help bring attention to the issues. There sometimes seems to be a disconnect between Russian and English in the communication with the Developers. Much appreciated, cheers.
Heya friend, the mods want English only on this side of the forums. You can just run your post through Google Translate first, even if the translation is not perfect, we can still understand you well 🙂
EDIT #1: You can just copy + paste your screenshots into the forums here. No need to upload them to a website first. If you cannot CTRL+C and CTRL+V , just save your screenshot to your computer, then you can drag and drop it here into your forum post.
EDIT #2: I would strongly recommend that you refrain from using offensive language and/or making any sort of “threats” about quitting the game, or trying to convince other players to stop playing. Very likely that your posts will get deleted and no one will be able to read your arguments any more. I want as many Naval players to have their opinions heard as possible, so I do not wish for your posts to be deleted.
Translation of your first post:
This is what happens when you change something without knowing and without having a clue… just to piss off those of us playing…
5 vs 5 players… and the rest are bots…
The first on my team got 5000 points of damage, I finished 2nd with 540 points, the third with 372 points, and the 4th and 5th with less than 100 points of damage.
The first one got those points because he killed two boats…
The shots miss and don’t hit a single one, and on top of that, it won’t let you correct the shot because some re****ed [offensive language censored] person thought it would be a good idea to change something. I guess it’s just to be annoying. [Insult deleted].
It’s a shame I can’t upload a picture because it’s a spectacle. If there were already so few of us on ships that you have to use bots, I imagine that the games will now be bots vs. bots… CONGRATULATIONS CHAMPIONS…
Let’s see if we’re lucky enough to see the image. I hope they fire the genius who decided on those changes. It’s a shame we don’t all leave the game, because that would be the right thing to do. Every day you make it harder and more complicated to play. On top of that, you boast that they give away more money now… MY HOLY B*LLS… Up until 3 days ago, I was making 100-300k in money per game… now, even if you give 100000000M to whoever kills an enemy, I suppose you’ll have a better chance of winning the lottery.
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