Nerf Ty-90

I think that one thing that would help is if Gaijin reworked how heat signatures work. Currently, it seems that all aircraft have a base heat signature even with the engine off. The ty-90 has been able to lock on to my me 163 even with the engine being off while i glide towards the heli. I have also have had issues with getting flares to confuse the ty-90. The flare problem has started happening with the strela’s missile too even though it is not listed as having ECCM. I believe that Gaijin is messing with missile stats which is leading to some missiles, such as the ty-90, being able to do things that make it seem op.

even tho manpads irl are doing better than strela aa

Nope. TY-90 never received any changes from this.

Uhh yeah? It’s an unflarable long range missile that people use to spawncamp heli/air zones, and literally nobody at any point gets anything even slightly comparable.

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Or planes with afterburner off ~2km and on ~3km?

let’s not actively lie just to try to win an argument shall we? It can target low heat signature, no re-heat jets from 3km+

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XD good joke

Because I’ve never been shot at and killed by one from this range in my G.91 right?

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It’s not
Of course it appears unflareable when the basis for comparison for most people is an R-60M

IR/Flare resistance and range is better on Stingers btw

More of an issue with lame strats but ok

Because it gets cried about and nerfed
Mistrals and MANPADS in general were obliterated and the Viper still has AIM-9Ls

9Ls aren’t half as good

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That’s kind of my point, especially since the missile has no IRCCM which most top tier helicopters have access to or other cheese like ATASK/Vikhrs.

This is a simple question, but is this missile implemented with performance based on real materials?
I can understand that it is strong against decoy flares because it uses IRH and UVH, but I doubt that it has overwhelming performance that surpasses IRH with this weight and size.
Is there a MANPADS-class missile with such high performance even though it was a post-Cold War design?
Looking at the data mine, it seems that the unknown part is lured by the word “latest” and the convenient number is filled appropriately

I don’t agree with you. The missile has already been doubled from 60 seconds guidance to 12 only. If you look at the Z-9Wa, it is BR 10.3 with anti-tank missiles with a distance of only 4 km. On the other hand, the British helicopter G-LYNX BR 10.0 has anti-tank missiles with a distance of 8 km and anti-aircraft missiles, which is the fastest The only advantage of Chinese helicopters, unfortunately, is this missile only And this is only at the distance, not that it has the slowness of anti-tank missiles in almost all the relays, and I am sorry if there are any mistakes in my English language, it is not my primary language

Some adjustment could be made to the TT.

  1. Z-9W should be restricted to 2 TY-90 and dropped to 8.7-9.7, acting as a stopgap between Z-11WA and Z-9WA. At 10.0 is just useless, when for only 0.3BR you can double the quantity of missiles and get thermals.

  2. Z-19 could get AKD-10 and be uptiered to 11.7 . Export version should remain as it is.

  3. Z-10…Not much to say, it’s shit compared to AH-64D or Ka-52/Mi-28. Best thing that could happen is update the model to the Z-10ME.

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I agree with you on this

What? nerf TY-90 such that CAS can bully grounds? I’m not sure if we should nerf it then.

Give an equivalent to any one of the nato nations and I guarantee the complaints will cease

Unfortunately, there is no AAM that could be updated from the current equipment.
To be precise, the R-73 is available for many Soviet helicopters. But the fact is that Gaijin is taking these up with Balanced.
The TY-90, which can carry four missiles per pylon, is a balanced missile, while the R-73, which can only carry one missile per pylon, is an unbalanced weapon. Hmmm, is it true?

As I mentioned yesterday I am concerned about the performance parameters of this missile.
The performance of this missile is the highest compared to any MANPADS (class) in the world, including the US, Russia, and Europe.
Is this missile really such an overwhelmingly powerful missile?
It seems doubtful that they would produce this missile in a situation where they are manufacturing dead copies of Igla in the same era.

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CN HELI needs some real ATGM… 3.75km atgm at 10.3, 6km atgm at 11.3, what a joke.

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TY90 is just funny at this point.
It’s much more agile and longer range than every other heli AAM, and even if you keep your head on a swivel and spot it, you’ll die 90% of the time.
They carry up to 16 of them, they’re unflareable, almost never miss (compared to Mistral and Stingers), NATO doesn’t have a counterpart, it’s typically paired with Russia which already the Pantsir, we could go on and on… It’s just unbalanced

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NATO does have counter parts, it’s just gaijin nerfed them, stingers and other manpads in a corrected state would mean ty90 won’t be as hugely superior except in their capacity to be carried