Nerf SPAA from 8.0 to 9.0

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A lot… I’m at 9.3 constantly getting evaporated by 9G’s (that’s partly because the J32B is mid) but they would ruin 8.3 because currently the only missiles that 8.3 faces are 1-2 planes with 9B’s the harrier would literally own the airspace.

Also you act like the US doesn’t have the 3 F-84 variants and the B-57s which are fairly good for the BR (just got killed by 2 of em today alone) and that if you went up 0.5 in BR you have CAS galore. You also act like the 2 US helis in that BR range the AH-1G and the UH-1B one with ATGM’s the other with the ability to heli rush with 76 rounds of FARR Mighty Mouse aren’t good but they are. I see people averaging 2 kills a game (same as the SA ALOUETTE) in those helis too. Consider yourself lucky to even have a heli in that BR range because most minor nations don’t.

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I’d take an 8.7 Alouette over an 8.3 Huey any day.

All three F-84s fly terribly which means they can’t fend off against CAP, and most nations either have an F-84F, or something better (like Sweden’s SAAB-105).

The bomber sight on the B-57s is inaccurate so they kinda limited.

AH-1G is just sad . . .

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Why care about Gepards and ZSU´s
when you have PzH2000 and its Chinese cousin
at even 0.3 lower BR?

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Which one? USA or Isreal? From experience in the US version - In a downtier it can crush pretty well provided you don’t fire off at bad angles or too early because the Mim-72C STILL lacks smokeless motor last I checked.

Edit; Typed radar on instinct, my bad. Though it’s also important to note it doesn’t have a radar other than your standard lock on what it’s aiming at.

In an uptier it’s pretty easy to beat with a single pop of flares.

As for the Isreal Imp, I think I’ve only ever been shot down by it once or twice, and only seen it get kills maybe a dozen times total since its addition.

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Dude, only the F-84F sucks in the mobility department. The 84B and 84G can literally turnfight with other jets within the BR range, and can reliably give SPAA a run for their money trying to get rounds on them.

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I’m not sure. Nuking M60s and other heavy tanks whole crew through the cupola with 35 mm api rounds when nothing else of the tank is visible and he cant even shoot back seems kinda wrong ngl. If even it should kill the commander through spall and not 3 to 4 ppl in there.

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US one. The new sound system made it possible to detect + turn on the seeker + aim and click with 0 attention to your screen, for you can hear them sooo early

Also do stare at the spawn the same way CAS is asked to stare at ground spawn, do find some cover the same way CAS is asked to stay under terrain, and do check for firing conditions - though usually just fire that headon shot.

Please don’t forget that flares should not be taken as a common thing btw. Or you may find yourself supporting 9.7 A10

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  1. Same could be said about AAMs on jets. Non-argument.

  2. I’m very aware of the importance of shoot n’ scoot and cover and concealment. Problem is; Maps are fishbowls and SPAA have very little room to use.

  3. Excuse me, what? Do you not understand that the Imp Chaps regularly see aircraft with flares due to the BR range they exist in? That has F-all to do with any kind of advocating for different BRs for aircraft. Stay on topic.

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ifaik 9.0 is where people are using 9b, while jets don’t have the opportunity to stay afk listening behind cover.

So ask ground force. Not the planes issue when you are killed by a tank in your spawn compound.
Also this is why I take impchap as a reference. They always (and usually only) die when ground fails, so their death corresponds there lost matches on statshark.

See:

Just pop flr for that 9L and use flight performance

Please don’t narrow your eyes on the few.

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  1. Nonargument as 9.0 Missile SPAA can’t get lock-ons from behind cover. They have to expose themselves, and those 9.0-9.3 missiles aren’t great at landing hits even when shot from correct angles.

  2. Don’t move the goalposts. The burden is on Gaijin to improve the map size. Also, CAS can very easily kill an ImpChap. The missiles are pretty easy to evade and even small bombs dropped in a close vicinity to the ImpChap will destroy it because the crew is exposed. A single decent MG strafe will also destroy it, and due to how the MIM will lock onto heli-fired ATGMs over the Heli itself it’s very easy to overwhelm the ImpChap and finish it off from there. Trying to use Statshark to prove your non-point here is fairly ignorant, at best.

  3. Twisting words to suit your agenda is peak dishonesty.

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Agree, 8.0-9.0 AAs need nerf… Not because they are extremely good against CAS (kinda opposite actually) because they are better anti tank vehicles then anti air.